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[quote=Kalisto2010;669896]Yay, LT Chad Clifton should be a Redskin by the end of the day:) Anything is better than what we use to have.[/quote]
I agree...upgrade, but will this mean we're not drafting a LT with #4?

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so far cro's career is shaping up to look like d hall's. probowler very early, known for being a ball hawk, then after a season or two, his flaws are highlighted and he becomes expendable.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;669906][B]why can't i find any stats for Clifton for 2009? [/B]ESPN's player page search doesn't find him, wiki has no stats, and ProReference seems to stop at 2008?

weird.[/quote]

Because he's an offensive lineman.

It IS funny that he's wearing a jersey without numbers for his photo here:

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_NFL_career.aspx?sport=NFL&id=1739]Chad Clifton[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;669906]why can't i find any stats for Clifton for 2009? ESPN's player page search doesn't find him, wiki has no stats, and ProReference seems to stop at 2008?

weird.[/quote]

What stats are you looking for on an offensive lineman?

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[quote=Buster;669907]I agree...upgrade, but will this mean we're not drafting a LT with #4?[/quote]

My guess is "not necessarily." We'll need more than Clifton, anyway, and perhaps the plan is still to draft a rookie and let him get his sea legs behind Clifton for a while. Then they switch and Clifton becomes a RT or a valuable back-up. Just a guess. We do need more than one tackle.

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[quote=Mattyk;669911]What stats are you looking for on an offensive lineman?[/quote]

games played. I thought I heard he was injured last year, and just wondered how many games he may have missed.

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[quote=Mattyk;669911]What stats are you looking for on an offensive lineman?[/quote]


Pancakes!

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Pennington hasn't signed with Miami yet. Still some interest in Washington.

[url=http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=4967395]Sources: Pennington wants no-trade clause from Dolphins - ESPN[/url]

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;669918]games played. I thought I heard he was injured last year, and just wondered how many games he may have missed.[/quote]

12 starts last year according to NFL.com

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[quote=Buster;669910]Because he's an offensive lineman.

It IS funny that he's wearing a jersey without numbers for his photo here:

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_NFL_career.aspx?sport=NFL&id=1739]Chad Clifton[/url][/quote]

I'm just saying that for example: pro-Football reference lists every year for him except 2009:
[URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/ClifCh20.htm"]Chad Clifton ProFootball Reference[/URL]

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[quote=Mattyk;669924]12 starts last year according to NFL.com[/quote]

Thanks, I checked ESPN, Wiki, and ProFootballReference, didn't think to check NFL.com :doh:

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Posted at 10:12 AM ET, 03/ 5/2010
[B]Offensive tackle Tony Pashos[/B] set to visit Redskins today

Chad Clifton apparently isn't the only offensive tackle who will be visiting Redskins Park today. Tony Pashos, an unrestricted free agent from San Francisco, is scheduled for a visit in Washington, according to Aaron Wilson of the NationalFootballPost.com.

Pashos, who stands 6-foot-6 and weighs 326 pounds, played under Washington offensive line coach Chris Foerster in both San Francisco and Baltimore. He also played two seasons in Jacksonville.

In recent weeks, it seemed the 49ers were getting close to working out a deal that would keep Pashos in San Francisco. That might not be the case, though.

Pashos, 29, and Foerster are believed to have a close relationship and San Francisco coach Mike Singletary was asked during the NFL Scouting Combine whether Foerster's departure would make it tougher for the 49ers to keep Pashos.

"I don't think so. I talked with Tony. I think Tony had some familiarity with Chris Foerster. But I talked with Tony, and Tony feels comfortable about what we're doing," Singletary said. "He feels good about what we're doing in San Francisco. Certainly, they had a
good relationship, but hopefully things work out where Tony is back with us. But I know he feels good about what we're doing. . . .Hopefully, it works itself out. But once again it has to work for both sides and hopefully it gets done."

The fact that the Redskins have at least two tackles stopping by today should not be read as a free agency competition between Clifton and Pashos, however. The team could sign both and start next season with new faces playing both left and right tackle.

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[quote=Buster;669907]I agree...upgrade, but will this mean we're not drafting a LT with #4?[/quote]

I doubt it, if the front office had any faith in JC they'd draft an O-lineman. Since they don't, they're going to aggressively pursue a QB as we did last year IMO.

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I could really see us signing Pashos and Clifton, and still using 2 picks on the OL.

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;669947]posted at 10:12 am et, 03/ 5/2010
[b]offensive tackle tony pashos[/b] set to visit redskins today

chad clifton apparently isn't the only offensive tackle who will be visiting redskins park today. Tony pashos, an unrestricted free agent from san francisco, is scheduled for a visit in washington, according to aaron wilson of the nationalfootballpost.com.

Pashos, who stands 6-foot-6 and weighs 326 pounds, played under washington offensive line coach chris foerster in both san francisco and baltimore. He also played two seasons in jacksonville.

In recent weeks, it seemed the 49ers were getting close to working out a deal that would keep pashos in san francisco. That might not be the case, though.

Pashos, 29, and foerster are believed to have a close relationship and san francisco coach mike singletary was asked during the nfl scouting combine whether foerster's departure would make it tougher for the 49ers to keep pashos.

"i don't think so. I talked with tony. I think tony had some familiarity with chris foerster. But i talked with tony, and tony feels comfortable about what we're doing," singletary said. "he feels good about what we're doing in san francisco. Certainly, they had a
good relationship, but hopefully things work out where tony is back with us. But i know he feels good about what we're doing. . . .hopefully, it works itself out. But once again it has to work for both sides and hopefully it gets done."

the fact that the redskins have at least two tackles stopping by today should not be read as a free agency competition between clifton and pashos, however. The team could sign both and start next season with new faces playing both left and right tackle.[/quote]

love it!

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;669947]Posted at 10:12 AM ET, 03/ 5/2010
[B]Offensive tackle Tony Pashos[/B] set to visit Redskins today

Chad Clifton apparently isn't the only offensive tackle who will be visiting Redskins Park today. Tony Pashos, an unrestricted free agent from San Francisco, is scheduled for a visit in Washington, according to Aaron Wilson of the NationalFootballPost.com.

Pashos, who stands 6-foot-6 and weighs 326 pounds, played under Washington offensive line coach Chris Foerster in both San Francisco and Baltimore. He also played two seasons in Jacksonville.

In recent weeks, it seemed the 49ers were getting close to working out a deal that would keep Pashos in San Francisco. That might not be the case, though.

Pashos, 29, and Foerster are believed to have a close relationship and San Francisco coach Mike Singletary was asked during the NFL Scouting Combine whether Foerster's departure would make it tougher for the 49ers to keep Pashos.

"I don't think so. I talked with Tony. I think Tony had some familiarity with Chris Foerster. But I talked with Tony, and Tony feels comfortable about what we're doing," Singletary said. "He feels good about what we're doing in San Francisco. Certainly, they had a
good relationship, but hopefully things work out where Tony is back with us. But I know he feels good about what we're doing. . . .Hopefully, it works itself out. But once again it has to work for both sides and hopefully it gets done."

The fact that the Redskins have at least two tackles stopping by today should not be read as a free agency competition between Clifton and Pashos, however. The team could sign both and start next season with new faces playing both left and right tackle.[/quote]

Excellent news, the Redskins seemed to have fooled everyone. We're actually addressing needs instead of wants. What a difference a real GM makes.

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[quote=mredskins;669920]Pancakes![/quote]

They're on your Madden game.

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[quote=Kalisto2010;669948]I doubt it, if the front office had any faith in JC they'd draft an O-lineman. Since they don't, they're going to aggressively pursue a QB as we did last year IMO.[/quote]

If they didn't have faith in him, he'd be tendered at a lower price and probably traded by now.

I think Shanahan is going to use Campbell in his plans, at least for this year.

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[quote=Redskins_P;669950]love it![/quote]

Huzzah! those two wold make my free agency baby!

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I love that we are taking our time with FA. No crazed rush to sign the most expensive player on the market.
Kudos to Allen and Shanahan.

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[quote=Defensewins;669963]I love that we are taking our time with FA. No crazed rush to sign the most expensive player on the market.
Kudos to Allen and Shanahan.[/quote]

And Snyder for allowing them to work without interference.

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[quote=Buster;669910]Because he's an offensive lineman.

It IS funny that he's wearing a jersey without numbers for his photo here:

[URL="http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_NFL_career.aspx?sport=NFL&id=1739"]Chad Clifton[/URL][/quote]

Holy Moobs!

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We are addressing the O-line, with reasonable priced free agents and not going after over priced big names!!?? my head is about to explode...

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Fred Smoot: I went to four redskin games two earlier in your career at Washington and when you came back. Each time you showed love to the fans in the stands, while Darrel Green snubbed his nose and walked right on by. And you were the same guy at the last two games. Thanks

Rock Cartright: Thanks, tough guy, solid special teamer, seemed like a good teamate and very coachable.

Antwan Randell El: Always said the right things, it just didnt work out. (did he ever return a punt for a TD as a Redskin?)

Todd Collins: Ill never forget "THE PLAYOFF RUN" and the Famed "COllins to Yoder Combination" against da bears!! You my friend are a true professional!

Randy Thomas: Injuries just kept him from being a beast. Man but when you pulled around and led Betts on the sweep against the cowgirls and Betts hit Terrence Newman right square in the back!!!! I loved it, Parcells thought otherwise.lmao

Laddell Betts: Ran as hard as any back, i liked you so much it really hurt me to curse you everytime you fumbled. sometimes

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[quote=Chico23231;669968]We are addressing the O-line, with reasonable priced free agents and not going after over priced big names!!?? my head is about to explode...[/quote]

Well, reasonable priced free agents are just about the only thing available. Unfortunately there isn't a marquee offensive lineman available in free agency (UFA). Which is why I hope they still draft a first or second round tackle.

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[quote=Mattyk;669949]I could really see us signing Pashos and Clifton, and still using 2 picks on the OL.[/quote]

Absolutely. However, with those two, they may not go after Okung in the first round and, instead go after Bradford while picking a couple of linemen they can develop behind the veterans for a year (maybe two). I think I would still like Okung and then a 2nd round QB.

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[quote=Chico23231;669968]We are addressing the O-line, with reasonable priced free agents and not going after over priced big names!!?? my head is about to explode...[/quote]

:laughing2 Strange days indeed. What a difference a real GM makes.

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Has Okung spoken with the Redskins yet? I know they've spoken to Clausen.

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I would imagine the Skins have met with most, if not all, of the top prospects.

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[url=http://www.packers.com/team/players/clifton_chad/]Packers.com » Team » Players » Chad Clifton[/url]

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[quote=Ruhskins;669971]Well, reasonable priced free agents are just about the only thing available. Unfortunately [B]there isn't a marquee offensive lineman available in free agency (UFA)[/B]. Which is why I hope they still draft a first or second round tackle.[/quote]

I am glad there is not one available.
We need to become good again at acquiring and developing our own own young and talented OL. Not getting someone elses left overs.
In the Snyder era it seems like when we picked up FA OL from another team they either become injury prone (Thomas) or their best playing days are behind them (Dockery/Rabach). We were the oldest team on the NFL last year, so having so many injuries and being 4-12 should not have been a big surprise.

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[quote=Defensewins;669982]I am glad there is not one available.
We need to become good again at acquiring and developing our own own young and talented OL. Not getting someone elses left overs ro drafting poorly.
In the Snyder era it seems like when we get FA OL from another team they either become injury prone (Thomas) or their best playing days are behind them (Dockery/Rabach).[/quote]

I meant a marquee UFA, sort of what Jason Brown was last year. I could be wrong, but I don't think we've ever gone after a young talented offensive lineman in the last couple of seasons. Except for Dockery, we always seemed to pick up old guys to patch things up.

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[quote=Ruhskins;669971]Well, reasonable priced free agents are just about the only thing available. Unfortunately there isn't a marquee offensive lineman available in free agency (UFA). Which is why I hope they still draft a first or second round tackle.[/quote]

Yes, I hope we still do and think we will. But, the fact they are no overpriced free agents Olineman could be a blessing in disguise. But more relieving is we havent done something completely stupid and given Peppers 70-90 million dollar contract right off the bat...

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[quote=skinsfan_nn;669947]Posted at 10:12 AM ET, 03/ 5/2010
[B]Offensive tackle Tony Pashos[/B] set to visit Redskins today

[/quote]

This is about 8 months too late (thanks, Vinny). Still it is a good move.

As far as some comments above go, we need a total OL makeover in terms of both starters and depth. So I can see us signing 3-4 free agents on the OL and still drafting as many as three guys.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;669970]Fred Smoot: I went to four redskin games two earlier in your career at Washington and when you came back. Each time you showed love to the fans in the stands, while Darrel Green snubbed his nose and walked right on by. And you were the same guy at the last two games. Thanks

Rock Cartright: Thanks, tough guy, solid special teamer, seemed like a good teamate and very coachable.

Antwan Randell El: Always said the right things, it just didnt work out. (did he [B]ever return a punt for a TD as a Redskin?)[/B]

Todd Collins: Ill never forget "THE PLAYOFF RUN" and the Famed "COllins to Yoder Combination" against da bears!! You my friend are a true professional!

Randy Thomas: Injuries just kept him from being a beast. Man but when you pulled around and led Betts on the sweep against the cowgirls and Betts hit Terrence Newman right square in the back!!!! I loved it, Parcells thought otherwise.lmao

Laddell Betts: Ran as hard as any back, i liked you so much it really hurt me to curse you everytime you fumbled. sometimes[/quote]

Loved all those guys, nice summary.

ARE returned a punt v. Indy in 06 for a td, I believe that was his only one.

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;669970]
Antwan Randell El: Always said the right things, it just didnt work out. (did he ever return a punt for a TD as a Redskin?)
[/quote]

ONE, in 2006. :(

I was SO excited when we signed him too, he was a completely different player in Pittsburgh and was a wrecking ball at Indiana...I'm not sure what happened when he arrived here. Great personality...loved him as a person, not as a player though. Same sentiment for Smoot too.

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Adam_Schefter

Free agent defensive end Kyle Vanden Bosch agrees to a four-year, $26 million deal with Lions.

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Now THIS I LIKE:

Replace Rabach...don't care how old he is, it's a huge upgrade:

[QUOTE][url=http://www.tennessean.com/article/20100305/SPORTS01/100305007/2162/Mawae+gets+interest++Vanden+Bosch+close+with+Lions+]Kyle Vanden Bosch, Detroit Lions agree to deal | tennessean.com | The Tennessean[/url]

Meanwhile, Titans center Kevin Mawae has drawn a lot of interest from teams at the start of free agency, according to his agent.

Mawae, a 16-year veteran, became a free agent late Thursday. The Titans have told him they’d like for him to return as a back-up, but Mawae is looking for a starting job elsewhere.

“We are talking to a lot of people,’ agent Mark Bartelstein said. “Kevin has a lot of family stuff going on, so he is not dying to jump on a plane and fly all over the country. He has been in the league, he knows everybody, all the situations, so he doesn’t need to get wined and dined. We may end up making a visit here and there, but it is more conversations right now.’’

[B]The Broncos and Redskins are among the teams believed to be interested[/B]. Bartelstein said Mawae could sign without making a trip.

“We have a bunch of people we’re talking to and hopefully we can get this done pretty soon,’’ Bartelstein said.[/QUOTE]



[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=914]Kevin Mawae[/url]

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[quote=Buster;670008]Now THIS I LIKE:

Replace Rabach...don't care how old he is, it's a huge upgrade:

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&id=914]Kevin Mawae[/url][/quote]

So Rabach would play guard?

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Not sure how much real interest there is considering Rabach just re-signed, unless they were to move him to guard which doesn't seem likely.