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He tweeted out that he doesn't understand things sometimes or something like that. That's his problem he's always blamed everything else. I was all about Rg3 and I'm done with the guy now. It's time to go with kirk and see what he can do.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1117864]He tweeted out that he doesn't understand things sometimes or something like that. That's his problem he's always blamed everything else. I was all about Rg3 and I'm done with the guy now. It's time to go with kirk and see what he can do.[/quote]

Who tweeted? RG III? He is a goner in DC. IF he is done through week 1 that means he is trade bait, plain and simple. If they can't get anything for him, they will just release him or bench him. Skins FO are a bunch of ball less wonders at this point. The organization looks really bad.

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You might be done with RG III, but I am just about done with our moron of an owner as well. The guy needs to take a look at how is predecessor handled things. Jack let the football guys handle it all!!!!

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He did tweet that but it didn't seem malicious .. bad thing and injuries.happen to.good ppl... It's.easy to feel.frustrated about all this... He's just a kid still after all lol... Sadly for.me I.do NOT see him succeeding in an offense that isn't compareable to 2012... Ever. So... In that, I'm sadly over it with him... I watch effing Blake Bortles drive 80 and 82 against the lions griffin couldn't even move against and that tears it... Preseason or not I'm over it man...

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[quote=Hog1;1117862]AND....it could be.
But, it may also be the hyperhysteria so common in Skins fans. Like the,,,,,everything is a conspiracy?[/quote]

The way it has played out, why not be a conspiracy? The dude is in now cleared by an "independent" MD? It is a rather elaborate ruse to buy time to see if Cousins can ride with the first string offense and maybe put feelers out for a possible trade. The Skins will try to save a bit of face, but the whole thing is a big farce at this point.

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[quote=OnceWeWereKings;1117860]For what it's worth, my buddy from work who is not a skins fan and doesn't give any shits about conspiracy or anything, text me and said, "griffins out week 3. He's done in Washington. "
We may read into things a bit being fans...that's what an unbiased eye sees...[/quote]

It was the same thing about the Lions game with folks in the NFL.com and ESPN forums saying they thought that our line dogged the game to teach RG III a lesson. I posted that thought on the game thread and was asked if I was drunk or was accused of being a toxic presence. Some guys seemed livid, but I can't see any offensive line being destroyed like that with some jobs being on the line unless there was some collusion involved with said parties. Not everything is a conspiracy, but there might be something to that train of thought in this case.

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Let's just get it over with and cut him already.

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So people are complaining about all of this, even though that there is such a thing as post-concussion syndrome and even doctors can get concussion symptoms wrong?

I mean are people so desperate to make a drama out of everything? :doh:

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[quote=Ruhskins;1117874]So people are complaining about all of this, even though that there is such a thing as post-concussion syndrome and even doctors can get concussion symptoms wrong?

I mean are people so desperate to make a drama out of everything? :doh:[/quote]

Question is why was he cleared to practice all week?

The handling of it all is definitely questionable.

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[quote=Mattyk;1117875]Question is why was he cleared to practice all week?

The handling of it all is definitely questionable.[/quote]

Exactly why the conspiracy theories aren't so crazy. How can they clear him for a week of practice and then change their minds? If he passed the NFL protocols, then he should be fine!!!

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[quote=Flyer97;1117871]The way it has played out, why not be a conspiracy? The dude is in now cleared by an "independent" MD? It is a rather elaborate ruse to buy time to see if Cousins can ride with the first string offense and maybe put feelers out for a possible trade. The Skins will try to save a bit of face, but the whole thing is a big farce at this point.[/quote]
You may be completely correct.......

But then again you are probably talking completely out your ass in Total speculation unless you are connected to the organization with some...actual... insider info? The list of potential scenario's that....may be true is endless

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shit show

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[quote=Mattyk;1117875]Question is why was he cleared to practice all week?

The handling of it all is definitely questionable.[/quote]

It could be that. Or it could be a mishandling by the team's medical staff. I mean look at the clustef*ck that happened when RG3 injured his knee back int he Shanahan days.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1117880]It could be that. Or it could be a mishandling by the team's medical staff. I mean look at the clustef*ck that happened when RG3 injured his knee back int he Shanahan days.[/quote]

Well it's an independent doctor that would have to clear him. So first he's fine, now he's not. The whole thing is just mad fishy. Plus the news comes on a Friday night, a convenient news dump night when teams or the league don't want to take too much direct heat on something. Just a bizarre situation.

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I just think Dan wanted griff all along and mike really didn't have a true choice in the matter. We have all heard the rumors of mike wanting Tannehill. Then u see Dan out dancing with griff a few times and it's just like that's cool and all but I literally can't stand DS anymore. The sight of him makes me mad so I'm just over this whole experiment, here is something that I'd never thought I'd do, every year before the season I buy new skins gear last year I couldn't because I left for the army and now this yr I really don't think I'm buying any. I would always hype the skins up with friends etc and I just stopped. Idk man it just has such a fucked up circus every damn yr I'm really just over it all. Ok sorry for venting like a bitch

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[quote=30gut;1117859]Why can't the organization get all their sucks in a row?

The brain doc should have never cleared him in the first place if he wasn't sure.

And if Gruden wants to bench Griffin just man up and put your big boy pants on. Let that guaranteed contract BS your shield. Unless at the end of the day your not ready pin your career on Colt/Kirk?

But the way this went down is suspect.[/quote]

Well said. I tell ya this organization is an embarrassment. This organization was cursed the day Danny boy wrote the check.

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WTF is going on here?? This all seems very strange to me. Are the Redskins trying to cut bait? He practiced all damn week long and didn't even seem like he had a concussion. Now he's not playing for a few weeks? What a clusterfuck situation this has become.

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Redskins put in RG3 and he sucks, people complain.

RG3 may be returning after his injury, people complain.

RG3 may not be all that well after all, people complain.

Yes, it seems fishy, but who cares. We're probably not going to have any of these QBs on the roster in a year or so.

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Cousins job to lose now. If Griffin never plays again here consider it a good thing.

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it's not rocket science, play him if he's healthy.

2012 is proof, he knows how to do it

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[quote=Mattyk;1117873]Let's just get it over with and cut him already.[/quote]


It really is a fucking cluster fuck. How was he cleared to practice for the week, with RGIII not even knowing if he had a concussion. NOW, you have some doc saying to hold him out due to the concussion. Really? Really? This organization is a mickey mouse operation starting with Dan the Dumbass. Hopefully we'll get some secret video of him being a racist one day so he'll be forced to sell the franchise.

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[quote=Mattyk;1117889]Cousins job to lose now. If Griffin never plays again here consider it a good thing.[/quote]

I didn't think he would last the season.

I guess the reason I'm not going all conspiracy theory is that this situation is reminding me of Jahvid Best's final seasons in the NFL and him retiring due to concussion issues. Specially since RG3 has had a previous history of concussion and the beating he took last week.

And if the team is trying to get rid of him, oh well. As I said before, moving on to the next QB.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1117892]It really is a fucking cluster fuck. How was he cleared to practice for the week, with RGIII not even knowing if he had a concussion. NOW, you have some doc saying to hold him out due to the concussion. Really? Really? This organization is a mickey mouse operation starting with Dan the Dumbass. Hopefully we'll get some secret video of him being a racist one day so he'll be forced to sell the franchise.[/quote]

The same doctor that ruled him fine changed his mind based on further analys, what does all of this have to do with your rant?

I just don't get the outrage.

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[quote=Mattyk;1117889]Cousins job to lose now. If Griffin never plays again here consider it a good thing.[/quote]

I almost feel guilty with how GLAD I am to hear Cousins may/most likely WILL be the starter week 1.

I always liked RG3, but at this point, the saga needs to end.


And it's not me "giving up" on RG3 or anything like that. I'm simply done with the side-show. We can blame the media all we want but at the end of the day, Cousins doesn't generate that kind of drama. As a team in re-build mode we need to rid ourselves of any added issues.

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[quote=sevier2;1117897]I almost feel guilty with how GLAD I am to hear Cousins may/most likely WILL be the starter week 1.

I always liked RG3, but at this point, the saga needs to end.

And it's not me "giving up" on RG3 or anything like that. I'm simply done with the side-show. We can blame the media all we want but at the end of the day, Cousins doesn't generate that kind of drama. As a team in re-build mode we need to rid ourselves of any added issues.[/quote]

I hope this doesn't happen, but there will be drama if KC starts firing of INTs.

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[quote=Flyer97;1117872]It was the same thing about the Lions game with folks in the NFL.com and ESPN forums saying they thought that our line dogged the game to teach RG III a lesson. I posted that thought on the game thread and was asked if I was drunk or was accused of being a toxic presence. Some guys seemed livid, but I can't see any offensive line being destroyed like that with some jobs being on the line unless there was some collusion involved with said parties. Not everything is a conspiracy, but there might be something to that train of thought in this case.[/quote]

Which guy was dogging it?

The guy trying to make the 53 (Smith)?

The guy who was brought in under a different GM and didn't thrill anyone last year and wants to stay past his current contract (Lavau)?

The guy who is undersized at his position and isn't the prototype the new GM is looking for (Lich)

The rookie who now somehow feels comfortable enough to teach the franchise QB a lesson after switching positions (Scherff)?

The guy who just broke into the starting lineup and was initially the second choice behind a Scherff/Long combo (Moses)?

I'm an idiot, but that's the dumbest idea I've ever heard if you're serious.

You've posted it twice now

Which one of the 5 intentionally let RG3 get hit?

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Does anyone think this has to do with what he said at his presser? Maybe the " I just work here" comment didn't go over too well with the folks in the front office.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1117895]The same doctor that ruled him fine changed his mind based on further analys, what does all of this have to do with your rant?

I just don't get the outrage.[/quote]

Disorganization starts at the top. We've heard Smoot talk plenty of times about how fucked up the culture is at Redskins part, and it starts with lil Danny.

Yes, I'm with the majority of the people here that think it's very odd that he was cleared early this week, but not now. I'm with the conspiracy theories on this one. I think they want to see how Kirk does with the first string. This allows them to do so without taking a bunch of flak.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1117901]Does anyone think this has to do with what he said at his presser? Maybe the " I just work here" comment didn't go over too well with the folks in the front office.[/quote]

It could be. I can see McCloughan as a guy that doesn't take any crap like that.

I guess I have a hard time believing that an independent neurologist would come up with a bogus "he can't play anymore" to do the team's bidding.

If the team is finding a way to get rid of him, honestly I think that may be the best for the team and RG3.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1117903]Disorganization starts at the top. We've heard Smoot talk plenty of times about how fucked up the culture is at Redskins part, and it starts with lil Danny.[/quote]

Yes, but ever since McCloughan has come on board, he seems to be doing the right things and is in complete control of the team. And that's a lot of people in the sports media are saying that, not just a yahoo fan like me.

So I don't get why people seems to forget all of the good he has done and go back to the same old tired rant about the owner whenever there is a bump on the road.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1117905]Yes, but ever since McCloughan has come on board, he seems to be doing the right things and is in complete control of the team. And that's a lot of people in the sports media are saying that, not just a yahoo fan like me.

So I don't get why people seems to forget all of the good he has done and go back to the same old tired rant about the owner whenever there is a bump on the road.[/quote]

I'm not worried about McCloughan. I have 100% trust in that dude right now. It's Danny/Bruce meddling is what I'm worried about. Who do you think is dictating that Robert start? It sure as shit isn't McCloughan. Hiring Scott McC is the only damn thing Danny has ever done worth a shit.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1117906]I'm not worried about McCloughan. I have 100% trust in that dude right now. It's Danny/Bruce meddling is what I'm worried about. [B]Who do you think is dictating that Robert start?[/B] It sure as shit isn't McCloughan. Hiring Scott McC is the only damn thing Danny has ever done worth a shit.[/quote]

McCloughan. Because he knows he doesn't have the resources to get a new QB and just needs to survive with what he has on the roster while he builds up the rest of the team. And if you don't believe that, go look at the QBs in Seattle in 2010 and 2011 while he was there.

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I don't even care how or why at this point. All I know is all this bickering and drama is just beyond tiring. People eat up this drama and then wonder why the media feeds us this shit. Who fucking cares lets just play some football.

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What is completely bad is that this is the warm up...if they had a conspiricy to bench RG3...they would have done it at the begiinning of the week to get Cousins reps with the 1's. No one in their right mind can expect a guy with ZERO practices with the ones to have any timing down at all. If anything...the conspiricy would be to set up Cousins to fail, to calm the fan base down to bring RG3 in as the saviour when Cousins throws 2 picks due to poor timing. Cousins throws to a spot on timing based on knowing his receivers. This is not going to be the same as throwing to the 2's. He is likely going to be late on the longer passes due to the speed differences. Check downs should be solid though. Let's watch for that. I actually have far more faith in Cousins' development into a solid pocket game manager aka a weaker armed Brad Johnson.
RG3 is someone who was supposed to revolutionize the game...he did for about 6 games in a row 3 years ago...then he got clobbered, I saw it personally...it sucked....and the drama...what drama! We cut a strong offensive coordinator in favor of a player for heaven sake. The Redskins do best as a TEAM...even when loudmouth Theismann was the QB, there were a half dozen others outspoken on both sides of the ball to balance him out....this team has never been successful with a single star or a potential one...be it Deon Sanders, Bruce Smith, or RG3.
We won superbowls with above average QB's with strong defenses and amazing Olines.
SCREW the QB position!!.
We need a game manager...that is all.
I want a TEAM....not a savior!! and a coach who inspires and commands respect.
The reality is ....we dont have any of these right now....except...I really do think Cousins could be a keeper...but we shall see tomorrow when they throw him to the dogs in a very difficult situation with a weak still developing line.
One thing I trust...our new GM....in 3 years, this team will look far different, unless Danny screws it up or McG goes back to the bottle.

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This is definitely pretty nuts, but I gotta keep up my broken record message. It doesn't matter who plays QB, none of them are good.

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[quote=Mattyk;1117909]I don't even care how or why at this point. All I know is all this bickering and drama is just beyond tiring. People eat up this drama and then wonder why the media feeds us this shit. Who fucking cares lets just play some football.[/quote]

Amen. I don't give a fuck at this point who plays QB. Hell, run a wishbone for all I care. Just play some football and win some games.

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[quote=Schneed10;1117912]This is definitely pretty nuts, but I gotta keep up my broken record message. It doesn't matter who plays QB, none of them are good.[/quote]

The sooner fans get this through their heads, the better they'll be.

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Have they tried Pot Roast at QB?

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[quote=skinsnut;1117915]Have they tried Pot Roast at QB?[/quote]

Or better yet, let's bring in the Hefty Lefty!

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Football is a TEAM sport.
11 at a time. 22 starters. No Heros.
Football is a game of war, obtaining territory to achieve a goal by force.
There is no room for stars. Let those willing to sacrifice themselves for the whole rise up.
The TEAM is what football is about.
We should remove names from jerseys, ban dancing, first down gestures, etc.
Football should be like rugby. Beat the crap out of each other and let the strongest win.
At least when you lose something like that, you have respect.

I don't care if we go 0-16, bring back the hogs and the biggest, meanest bastards in the NFL...we just need 5 O linemen and 3 Dlinemen that scare the crap out of the world. With that...I can live as a fan with respect!