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If Ben Johnson is the guy, and Detroit beats LA, what does that mean for interviews?

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1357160]If Ben Johnson is the guy, and Detroit beats LA, what does that mean for interviews?[/QUOTE]


I don’t think winning or losing comes into it. Pretty sure they can do virtual interviews after WC round and in person after divisional round (1/22).


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[QUOTE=HTTR;1357054]Good post. HC is a leader of men and sets the tone for the whole team. Maybe Ben Johnson has the right qualities for HC and would be good at finding his own OC. But the lesson from teams like Texans, Ravens, and Lions may be that you need a boy genius coordinator, not necessarily a boy genius HC. And on Slowik, the more I watch CJ Stroud, the more I wonder who’s making the other look so good?


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Slowick was already a hot commodity in San Fran. I think they compliment each other perfectly.

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The combo I’m daydreaming about at the moment is Vrabel as HC and the *next* Slowick or Ben Johnson as OC. There must be a QB or WR coach about to bust out.


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I want MV as head coach !

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[quote=rocnrik;1357177]I want MV as head coach ![/quote]

if he goes to dallas , god help us

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[quote=mredskins;1357178]if he goes to dallas , god help us[/quote]If Jerry makes a move on McCarthy, I could see him entertaining Vrabel. My gut says McCarthy stays but who knows at this point?

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When I watched the Texans, Packers and the Lions it makes me even more mad at EB. Those offenses were called and scripted perfectly this weekend. Then you look at ours and just nothing but horseshit chuck and duck.

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There's such a glaring difference on both sides of the ball when you watch our games, and then tune into other NFL games. It's not effort either.

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This is one reason we have to be careful not to write off our players too quickly. Coaching matters.


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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;1357180]When I watched the Texans, Packers and the Lions it makes me even more mad at EB. Those offenses were called and scripted perfectly this weekend. Then you look at ours and just nothing but horseshit chuck and duck.[/QUOTE]


Maybe EB would do a better job in year 2 knowing the players strengths and working under a better HC. But I’m not interested in finding out.


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[quote=AnonEmouse;1357048]While I doubt it'll happen (he gets an offer), my money is on them waiting it out to see if he gets an approach for a HC or another OC position, to get compensation. There are enough HC candidates to go around as it is, and I doubt anyone wants to expend picks to take him. Betting he's let go soon after a new HC is appointed, but I doubt he goes before. Likely he'll be back in KC next year.[/quote]

Is there something in his contract that we get compensation?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1357180]When I watched the Texans, Packers and the Lions it makes me even more mad at EB. Those offenses were called and scripted perfectly this weekend. Then you look at ours and just nothing but horseshit chuck and duck.[/quote]

The number of downfield plays is insane.
Another thing worth mentioning is the action at the line of scrimmage.
QBs were calling out blitzes and checking out of plays. I don't think we did that very much this year.

Jordan Love dissected Dallas pre snap.

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[quote=jamf;1357187]The number of downfield plays is insane.
Another thing worth mentioning is the action at the line of scrimmage.
QBs were calling out blitzes and checking out of plays. I don't think we did that very much this year.

Jordan Love dissected Dallas pre snap.[/quote]

Apparently the Packers have a life-time supply of franchise QB's. And then there's us.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1357189]Apparently the Packers have a life-time supply of franchise QB's. And then there's us.[/quote]

no they have highly qualified people making decisions in upper management

even when they had rogers they were still looking at the QB position


jordon loves performance last night is the best i have seen from a QB all year

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I just listened to Doc Walker on 106.5 the fan radio .. did he really have Jerry Jones on as a call in guest?? I think it's a joke but can't really tell .. he kept calling him jeruh.. does anybody know ?

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Never mind it's a joke ... 😀😀

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Belichick interviewed in Atlanta tonight per ESPN


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[quote=skinsfaninok;1357244]Belichick interviewed in Atlanta tonight per ESPN


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/quote]A little surprised Belichick isn't calling it a career yet. He must really wanna coach still. I know he wants to prove he can create a winner without Brady but guy has been in the league forever and in his 70s now. He may pull a Joe Pa and just coach as long as he can stand.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1357246]A little surprised Belichick isn't calling it a career yet. He must really wanna coach still. I know he wants to prove he can create a winner without Brady but guy has been in the league forever and in his 70s now. He may pull a Joe Pa and just coach as long as he can stand.[/quote]

He wants to pass Shula. He's an egotistical fuck. But that's basically a requirement to be a successful HC. He won't retire until he has the record or no one will hire him.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1357250]He wants to pass Shula. He's an egotistical fuck. But that's basically a requirement to be a successful HC. He won't retire until he has the record or no one will hire him.[/quote]He better start winning more than 4 games a year then. Atlanta seriously? With Ridder and Heinicke? This would be like going to the athletic version of Jones/Zappe. If we don't even want him, then you know dude is WAY past his prime.

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1357252]He better start winning more than 4 games a year then. Atlanta seriously? With Ridder and Heinicke? This would be like going to the athletic version of Jones/Zappe. If we don't even want him, then you know dude is WAY past his prime.[/quote]

He's what 72, his options are likely limited. Don't think there's a long line of teams looking to hire someone that age.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;1357253]He's what 72, his options are likely limited. Don't think there's a long line of teams looking to hire someone that age.[/quote]Exactly. He's already started to tarnish his legacy. He shouldn't go to a place like Atlanta to try to make it better. Maybe, all he does care about are his pockets and passing Shula. Just don't see him turning the Falcons into a contender anytime soon if he lands there.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1357186]Is there something in his contract that we get compensation?[/quote]

Does there need to be something in his contract? If he's under contract and another team comes calling, don't they have to offer compensation to us to release him from it? Maybe unless there's specific wording about not being offered our HC position when approached?

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[quote=rocnrik;1357177]I want MV as head coach ![/quote]

Michael Vick? The dogfighter? :D

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Dan Quinn on Thursday
No word on Ben Johnson or Bobby Slowik but I'm sure they are next

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1357264]Dan Quinn on Thursday
No word on Ben Johnson or Bobby Slowik but I'm sure they are next[/quote]

if we are going QB with our pick i like a O minded coach

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Agree

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Quinn makes me think of a younger RR, though maybe with more passion. What's he done at Dallas that makes him stand out? 2 good seasons in Atlanta but less than .500 there overall.

Personally I vote a young offensive coach that can bring in a great DC to complement him. Plus have and use an OC, not call plays himself.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1357264]Dan Quinn on Thursday
No word on Ben Johnson or Bobby Slowik but I'm sure they are next[/quote]

Ben Johnson on Friday

[quote]Nicki Jhabvala
Lions OC Ben Johnson has a virtual interview with the Commanders on Friday, per source.
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Ben Johnson is Friday

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[quote=WCommandersfan99;1357246]A little surprised Belichick isn't calling it a career yet. He must really wanna coach still. I know he wants to prove he can create a winner without Brady but guy has been in the league forever and in his 70s now. He may pull a Joe Pa and just coach as long as he can stand.[/quote]

he'll die before he retires. started early with his dad at Navy, and has been paid as a coach since 1975.

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[quote=AnonEmouse;1357278]Quinn makes me think of a younger RR, though maybe with more passion. What's he done at Dallas that makes him stand out? 2 good seasons in Atlanta but less than .500 there overall.

Personally I vote a young offensive coach that can bring in a great DC to complement him. Plus have and use an OC, not call plays himself.[/quote]

Ben Johnson is being looked at because he is an excellent OC ... We hire him based on that and he Hires another OC ?? this is what I don't understand about the hire .

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Really good article about Ben Johnson

[url]https://www.golongtd.com/p/why-ben-johnson-is-atop-the-coaching[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1357304]Really good article about Ben Johnson

[url]https://www.golongtd.com/p/why-ben-johnson-is-atop-the-coaching[/url][/quote]Wow what a great read. Hope we land Ben Johnson. Campbell has done an incredible job at Detroit. Will never forget him crying after losses his 1st year. Nearly impossible not to root for him and Detroit at this point.

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[quote=That Guy;1357290]he'll die before he retires. started early with his dad at Navy, and has been paid as a coach since 1975.[/quote]

I'm a little worried the Cowboys might dump McCarthy and make a run for Belichick. BB is probably looking for a team with a good roster and qb that is just underachieving. He doesn't need to do a full rebuild.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1357304]Really good article about Ben Johnson

[url]https://www.golongtd.com/p/why-ben-johnson-is-atop-the-coaching[/url][/quote]

+1, fantastic profile of him. Not sure what it means for him as a HC - as the article says he is gonna have to find his voice/style - but regardless he is gonna get his opportunity next year for sure.

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[QUOTE=mooby;1357307]+1, fantastic profile of him. Not sure what it means for him as a HC - as the article says he is gonna have to find his voice/style - but regardless he is gonna get his opportunity next year for sure.[/QUOTE]


I think any new HC has to find their voice/style. And honestly if the guy is an x’s and o’s genius I could care less what his voice/style is. Pete Carrol and BB were two great HC’s and are completely different styles.

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[quote=punch it in;1357314]I think any new HC has to find their voice/style. And honestly if the guy is an x’s and o’s genius I could care less what his voice/style is. Pete Carrol and BB were two great HC’s and are completely different styles.[/quote]

I disagree - the HC has to be a leader first and foremost. You lose the war if you lose the locker room, being a HC means commanding the respect of the entire locker room. That's why I like what Peters said yesterday - they want a leader of men, whether his background is offense or defense doesn't matter.

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[quote=mooby;1357306]I'm a little worried the Cowboys might dump McCarthy and make a run for Belichick. BB is probably looking for a team with a good roster and qb that is just underachieving. He doesn't need to do a full rebuild.[/quote]

Other than Parcells hiring BB really wouldn't be Jerry's style. He likes a HC that won't overshadow him. And I can't see BB wanting an owner like Jerry hanging over his shoulder.