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[quote=mlmdub130;621477]how many starts does matt leinard have can't be many either i'd call him a bust[/quote]

11 starts in 4 years....also playing behind a future hall of famer and former super bowl MVP....not to mention the starting QB for the NFC in the pro bowl

leinart isnt a bust either..maybe you think vince young is a bust too

in order to be a bust you have to give them the opportunity to play up to or below their potential......if they get outplayed it doesnt make them a bust, it just means the other guy is better......now if leinart or quinn never make a name for themselves and bounce around the league before retiring with only 6 and 11 games started respectfully......then label them busts

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[quote=CantonLegend;621479]11 starts in 4 years....also playing behind a future hall of famer and former super bowl MVP....not to mention the starting QB for the NFC in the pro bowl

leinart isnt a bust either..maybe you think vince young is a bust too

in order to be a bust you have to give them the opportunity to play up to or below their potential......if they get outplayed it doesnt make them a bust, it just means the other guy is better......now if leinart or quinn never make a name for themselves and bounce around the league before retiring with only 6 and 11 games started respectfully......then label them busts[/quote]

i guess i just consider it a bust because of the high draft spot, i mean if you spend that much money and that high of a draft pick on somebody they need to have an impact within the first three years of them being there, otherwise i think the talent evaluator kinda s the bed by wasting a high draft pick on a position that was obviously not that important, imo

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[quote=mlmdub130;621482]i guess i just consider it a bust because of the high draft spot, i mean if you spend that much money and that high of a draft pick on somebody they need to have an impact within the first three years of them being there, otherwise i think the talent evaluator kinda s the bed by wasting a high draft pick on a position that was obviously not that important, imo[/quote]

lol i normally agree......i would hate to have a first round draft pick ride the pine for 4 years before makes an impact......however, you look at guys like aaron rodgers who sat behind a future hall of famer for 3 seasons before getting his shot and look how he turned out

guys like steve young who come into the league as a nobody from the USFL and sits behind a guy you probably have heard of named joe montana.....then goes on to be a hall of famer in his own right

its proven that if you give a player time to learn the system and the players under a proven starter, they are more likely to succeed when you hand the reigns over to them

like i said tho....id hate to waste a pick in the first round and not see that player play for the next 3 or 4 seasons

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OK so after watching the Falcons game I can say that from the looks of how bad our OL is and the looks of their OL, we need to get OL in both the Draft and Free agency. Maybe a Russell Okung in the Draft and a logan mankins in FA.

Theres no way we're getting Jahri Evans from the N.O. Saints, they'll throw all the money they got for him or Franchise him. I'd Say the same almost for Marcus McNeil, cause the Chargers have already locked up Rivers, and they don't seem to care about losing Merriman, since he hasn't played that well and they drafted larry english as his back up.

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The pick will most likely be a QB, and the O-line will be addressed in the 2nd round and free agency. That will be the big splash of the off season we see every year.

what pick do you all think we will have next year? I figure about 7th. And that is not early enough for Okung, who is surely going to go top 5.

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[quote=Hijinx;622414]The pick will most likely be a QB, and the O-line will be addressed in the 2nd round and free agency. That will be the big splash of the off season we see every year.

what pick do you all think we will have next year? I figure about 7th. And that is not early enough for Okung, who is surely going to go top 5.[/quote]

I'd say we take one of:Okung, Williams, Buluga, Braford, or McCoy

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I also would like Sam Young from ND in the second round

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A perfect draft would be to trade down and get an OL,OG, then go for Toby Gerhart and Jimmy Clausen if he's available. We will need to make some trades and try to get as many picks as possible. My candidates to trade that gives us somekind of value are:

Moss
Landry
Fred Davis
Andre Carter
Montgomery

I would keep Portis and Campbell, I think that with an OL that hey can be productive.

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[quote=Hijinx;622414]The pick will most likely be a QB, and the O-line will be addressed in the 2nd round and free agency. That will be the big splash of the off season we see every year.

what pick do you all think we will have next year? I figure about 7th. And that is not early enough for Okung, who is surely going to go top 5.[/quote]

QB, O-line and RB. Between the draft and free agency, they can get 'er done. If they can trade someone for multiple picks, so be it. I don't expect Campbell to get any huge offers, so they should match his best offer and keep him around. Best case, it's a Philip Rivers/Drew Brees situation. Throw in a new coach and GM, and they are on the road to recovery.

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Does everybody know that Atlanta got their LT with our pick in 2008, that we traded for those superstars Devin Thomas and Malcom Kelly.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;622445]Does everybody know that Atlanta got their LT with our pick in 2008, that we traded for those superstars Devin Thomas and Malcom Kelly.[/quote]Yep. He was really the last of the first round tackles, and no one would have said the trade down was poor in hindsight.

Of course at the time of the trade, we had no idea that Vinny had DT high on his board, and though we knew he had a hard on for Kelly, he jumped through a hoop to get him AFTER getting DT. Made the trade all sorts of pointless, since Kelly would have been around in the third.

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Well if we had drafted him, we would probably have started the season with him at RT. He would have moved to LT and we would be in much better shape. We still could have drafted one of the three that we did. In Vinny's mind there was no talent worth the first round pick. Looks like he made a big mistake.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;622425]A perfect draft would be to trade down and get an OL,OG, then go for Toby Gerhart and Jimmy Clausen if he's available. We will need to make some trades and try to get as many picks as possible. My candidates to trade that gives us somekind of value are:

Moss
Landry
Fred Davis
Andre Carter
Montgomery

I would keep Portis and Campbell, I think that with an OL that hey can be productive.[/quote]

Well, in order to keep Campbell he's going to need an extension. Fortunately (or unfortunately depending how you look at it) he's not doing anything to warrant huge dollars, so maybe we could keep him around and still bring in a rookie with promise. I just wonder what a new contract would/will look like after this season.

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Another Vinny mistake was taking Landry. In my mind he is a bust, He has blown a bunch of games for us.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;622462]Another Vinny mistake was taking Landry. In my mind he is a bust, He has blown a bunch of games for us.[/quote]

We took Landry with Adrian Peterson still on the board...

Although AP wouldn't look like AP behind this BS O-line.