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So PTI just said Kyle doesn't get along with McNabb?? Now the truth is starting to come out.

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[quote=SmootSmack;769975]Yeah Devlin's ok, people seem to like Gabbert too. I think that's his name, from Mizzou.[/quote]

I've watched Gabbert alot this season and he's a solid player but nothing special IMO

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[quote=SmootSmack;769975]Yeah Devlin's ok, people seem to like Gabbert too. I think that's his name, from Mizzou.[/quote]I like Gabbert a lot. I think either he, or Nick Foles, is going to probably come out when Andrew Luck decides to stick it out at Stanford and try to win next year.

Luck, I think, is the unanimous #1 pick if he comes out, but I forsee Carolina passing on a QB when he doesn't, and trying to win with a second year Jimmy Clausen.

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I'd take Foles over Gabbert

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i think gabbert is overrated personally.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;769977]So PTI just said Kyle doesn't get along with McNabb?? Now the truth is starting to come out.[/quote]

Old news that PTI (I'm guessing it was Tony) has said before. Not that they don't get along, but Kyle has had issue with McNabb's mechanics, namely his footwork, since pre-season.

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Would you guys take Kyle Orton(Free Agent) or Kevin Kolb(unlikely) and then draft someone like J.Jones or J.Blackmon? Both of those guys are still pretty young and Orton has had 2 pretty good seasons back to back.

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[quote=SmootSmack;769985]Old news that PTI (I'm guessing it was Tony) has said before. Not that they don't get along, but Kyle has had issue with McNabb's mechanics, namely his footwork, since pre-season.[/quote]

Yea and Mike basically said Mike Shanahan should and could be fired LOL

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[quote=skinsfaninok;769983]I'd take Foles over Gabbert[/quote]I probably would too, if they were both available. I doubt they'll both be available. I think it's more like, once Andrew Luck makes an announcement to stay, one or the other might think (or be advised) "hey, you could be a top ten pick now with a good combine performance." And one may come out.

Luck, Mallett, Newton, Foles, and Gabbert are the first round skill sets who are underclassmen. I think Newton is going to be a competent starter at the next level, but if you're looking for a franchise guy (Mark Sanchez, Jason Campbell, Vince Young, Chad Henne, Carson Palmer, etc), look elsewhere. I'd be willing to hitch my wagon to any of the other four at the right price.

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[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/12/17/time-to-quiet-the-mcnabb-to-arizona-speculation-before-it-starts/]Time to quiet the McNabb-to-Arizona speculation before it starts | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;769960]lol, check out the comments section and that "The Twelve Years since Elway" comment. HILARIOUS.[/quote]

[url=http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBsQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fbleacherreport.com%2Farticles%2F546129-memo-to-washington-redskins-mike-shanahan-donovan-mcnabb-is-not-john-elway&ei=P-sLTfTcIoP_8AaanrXKDQ&usg=AFQjCNGtaL5Y7tNs4NTKyFlc7wC-kd2cXg&sig2=NHqb59lvgKRK9Z2x0AtZVw]Donovan McNabb Is Not John Elway: A Memo To Washington Redskins' Mike Shanahan | Bleacher Report[/url]

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[quote=GTripp0012;769990]Luck, Mallett, Newton, Foles, and Gabbert are the first round skill sets who are underclassmen.[/quote]And for the record, every last one of these guys would look better in 2012 than in 2011. But if any of them (and I think Mallett and Newton will for sure) come out this year, we have to evaluate them in the context of what they've done to that point, not how they would have done if they stayed.

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They keep saying on the news how Shanahan wasn't happy with how McNabb had picked up his offense which is obviously true and I'm sure he could have done better but it just seems to me that Shanahan seems a little to set in his ways as far as scheme's go. I mean if it takes nothing short of a 9 time pro bowler, all decade QB, maybe the greatest passer of all time to fully grasp your system, maybe you need to dumb it down a little so that your every day, run of the mill 6 time pro bowler can figure it out and perform. And I don't care which defense we run, a 4-3, a 3-4, each can be just as effective but why would you choose the one that then needs an entire personnel change. Plenty of teams win super bowls in a 4-3. Just kind of seems like common sense. It would be a lot easier to rebuild an offense with an already strong defense and vice versus. Just a thought.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;769728]McNabb has played like hell all year long. Like Shit most of the time. If Shanahan really is trying to change the team, then we have to accept that McNabb would eventually be benched due to his poor play this season. Shanahan needs to put the best product on the field.

Leaving McNabb in no matter how bad he played would be something the previous regime would do. Look at all those years Campbell stunk it up and nobody ever considered if a QB switch would do anything.

Lets give this move a chance before preaching doom and gloom....[/quote]

Are you serious? McNabb is [b]2nd[/b] in the NFC in passing yards. How you can say that he's played like sh*t? The entire team has played like sh*t, there's nothing a QB can do when there's a severe lacking in playmakers.

I can't imagine someone telling a RB, you're having a terrible year, despite him being second in the NFC rushing. Telling a LB he sucks, despite him being second in the NFC in tackles, or telling a passrusher he sucks despite him being # 2 in the NFC in sacks. This is a team game, Shannahan is looking for a scapegoat, looks like that mission is accomplished.

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Fck all the other QBs...I want Kellen Moore! I would seriously draft him #1 overall! And if we are talking future QB selection then I'd like to have Aaron Murray for Georgia.