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[quote=The Goat;1045443]I'm baffled anyone still wants anyone named Shanahan coaching this team...just baffled.

In four years Shanahan has recruited or developed just one starting caliber WR, Peter Boy, though he probably overpaid. Every other WR has been a bust, especially with Morgan being a huge cost to the team/cap. In those same four years Shanahan has recruited or developed maybe two starting caliber offensive linemen, Trent and Kory IMO.

Defensively, he's brought about the worst four year defensive stretch I can remember in team history, so since the early 80's when I started following the Skins.

It's really hard to find a worse coach in football today. Kubiak maybe but I give him some leeway given the health issues.[/quote]

Health issues?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1045447]Health issues?[/quote]

Maybe I'm misremembering but didn't Kubiak have a TIA?

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I have a question for the crowd that wants to retain Mike Shanahan but force him to completely rebuild his coaching staff and strip him of his personnel duties. That question is: what is the difference between that and the complete rebuild you are avoiding? What advantage does this team gain by keeping Shanahan but none of his hires?

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Starting over is hard to do. We have to buck the trend and stand behind our coaching staff through the fire. Maybe Shanny is not the answer... if he isn't the Redskins need to bring someone in young enough to stick around and grow for the long run. Don't make decision based off fan and media opinions.

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[quote=The Goat;1045452]Maybe I'm misremembering but didn't Kubiak have a TIA?[/quote]

They were playing lousy before that, so do you just not want to pick on him? Is that why you're giving him leeway?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1045468]They were playing lousy before that, so do you just not want to pick on him? Is that why you're giving him leeway?[/quote]

Well, there had to be some reason, outside of coaching, for Kubiak's poor results because we all know Shanahan is, will be and always has been the worst coach in any sport at anytime throughout recorded history.

Plus, his daddy kicked Goat in the nuts every day for a year.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1045475]Well, there had to be some reason, outside of coaching, for Kubiak's poor results because we all know Shanahan is, will be and always has been the worst coach in any sport at anytime throughout recorded history.

[B]Plus, his daddy kicked Goat in the nuts every day for a year.[/B][/quote]

That explains it!

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[quote=SmootSmack;1045468]They were playing lousy before that, so do you just not want to pick on him? Is that why you're giving him leeway?[/quote]

TIA's are scary. Mom had one several years ago so I feel for Kubiak.

He also produced really good teams in the last decade. Deserves quite a lot more leeway than Shanahan IMO. Same goes for Mike Smith. Doesn't sound like he's on the hot seat though.

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[quote=The Goat;1045495]TIA's are scary. Mom had one several years ago so I feel for Kubiak.

He also produced really good teams in the last decade. Deserves quite a lot more leeway than Shanahan IMO. Same goes for Mike Smith. Doesn't sound like he's on the hot seat though.[/quote]

I know all about TIAs, has hit my family hard.

As for Kubiak's past decade, I mean he's been average in my opinion

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[quote=SmootSmack;1045505]I know all about TIAs, has hit my family hard.

As for Kubiak's past decade, I mean he's been average in my opinion[/quote]

Sorry to hear about that. Hopefully nobody in the fam had a stroke after the TIA, that's the scariest part from what I know?

The Texans were a pretty awesome reg season team up to this year, always a disappointment in the playoffs though.

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[quote=The Goat;1045506]Sorry to hear about that. Hopefully nobody in the fam had a stroke after the TIA, that's the scariest part from what I know?

The Texans were a pretty awesome reg season team up to this year, always a disappointment in the playoffs though.[/quote]

Yes, they did and yes it is

They were awesome in the regular season the last two seasons, pretty much .500 before that. Either way, what does it matter if they can't deliver in the playoffs?

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Kubiak doesn't do much for me

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Just to be clear I wasn't advocating Kubiak in DC (for any position).

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[quote=The Goat;1045506]Sorry to hear about that. Hopefully nobody in the fam had a stroke after the TIA, that's the scariest part from what I know?

[B]The Texans were a pretty awesome reg season team up to this year[/B], always a disappointment in the playoffs though.[/quote]

[B][I]Houston under Kubiak:[/I][/B]
2012: 12-4*
2011: 10-6*
2010: 6-10
2009: 9-7
2008: 8-8
2007: 8-8
2006: 6-10

Definition of "pretty awesome reg. season team" -- 52% Winning percentage (59-53) and two play-off appearances.

... Goat's use of hyperbole and selective memory?

Awesome!

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[quote=The Goat;1045495]TIA's are scary. Mom had one several years ago so I feel for Kubiak.

He also produced really good teams in the last decade. [B]Deserves quite a lot more leeway than Shanahan IMO. [/B] Same goes for Mike Smith. Doesn't sound like he's on the hot seat though.[/quote]

The shocking reveal ... Goat thinks Shanny is worse than every coach ever!