Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

I want to resign Kirk, however if they know for sure that a deal can't be had trade him and get two 1st rounders. Don't let him leave for nothing.

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[quote=Schneed10;1164224]With access to the results, great play by Kirk and I loved it. But I saw that play live (yes I stayed up for the Pro Bowl) and when I saw Alexander make the pick Cousins was off the screen, and I was repeating over and over "Cousins get down, Cousins get down...".

Then he streaks into the screen to catch Talib from behind and my heart was in my throat.

He popped up just fine, thank God. Gutsy play and it embodies everything we love about Kirk. But MAN was that F'ing STUPID![/quote]

I'm with you on that Schneed. I would sign KC at almost any conceivable cost, but I think he really does need more situational awareness than this play showed, no matter how much we liked it. You just can't risk it all on something so inconsequential as this game...

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1164242]I'm with you on that Schneed. I would sign KC at almost any conceivable cost, but I think he really does need more situational awareness than this play showed, no matter how much we liked it. You just can't risk it all on something so inconsequential as this game...[/quote]

My first thought was that we need to bring LO back.

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1164242]I'm with you on that Schneed. I would sign KC at almost any conceivable cost, but I think he really does need more situational awareness than this play showed, no matter how much we liked it. You just can't risk it all on something so inconsequential as this game...[/quote]

Well, think about it. You're Kirk Cousins. You've shown a lot of promise and probably enough to be considered a pretty good quarterback. But, what have you really accomplished? He couldn't lead the Redskins to a win over the Packers in the playoffs in 2016. His team gets embarrassed by the the Steelers on national television to start the season. He throws an untimely INT against the Cowboys in week two - which leads to a loss. He struggled against the Cardinals, which hurt their playoff chances. He struggled against the Panthers - again on national television and once again, knocked them out of a prime spot to wrap up a playoff spot. He failed to lead the Redskins past the Giants - a game that would have gotten the 'skins into the playoffs.

So, another golden chance for Kirk Cousins to show the national audience that he deserves that big contract. He played pretty well, but that INT was going to be another reminder of how much disappointment Kirk Cousins has had to face since the playoffs last year. So many opportunities to do something great right when it counts the most. Of course, we know the Pro Bowl doesn't mean diddly squat to us, but for Cousins, he probably felt it was a golden opportunity to shine. His team down 20-7, Cousins was leading the NFC back to tie the game. Could you imagine if Cousins had thrown a TD? Maybe they go for two and win the game? Suddenly, everybody is talking about how Captain Kirk comes in and becomes the hero. Shows that he's a true baller. Instead, his pass gets tipped and intercepted. My hat's off to him for running Talib down and knocking the ball out. He wanted to win that game badly.

Was it stupid? Probably. But, it proves to me that Cousins wants to win, no matter the stage, no matter if it's a meaningless game or not. Cousins was very grateful for the opportunity to play in the Pro Bowl. I think the guy plays with a lot of heart and passion for the game. I don't think you pass up on a guy like that.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;1164245]My first thought was that we need to bring LO back.[/quote]

You mean Zo?

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Solid Snake don't read this:

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/01/30/new-49ers-gm-john-lynch-believes-kirk-cousins-has-earned-a-big-time-contract/?utm_term=.a093d82fae6f[/url]

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That INT wasn't on Cousins at all -- Jimmy Graham totally blew it. It should have been a catch if not a TD; it hit him in both hands, for crying out loud. Cousins probably felt that way as well when he ran down Talib (which was pretty badass, by the way -- probably the best play by a Redskin since Sean Taylor blew up Moorman). I don't blame Cousins for doing it, and I would imagine any football player with an ounce of pride would do the same. I love the guy. Sign him already.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1164250]Solid Snake don't read this:

[url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2017/01/30/new-49ers-gm-john-lynch-believes-kirk-cousins-has-earned-a-big-time-contract/?utm_term=.a093d82fae6f[/url][/quote]

I read it earlier today and still feel happy that GM's and Coaches around the NFL are able to agree on what we can't seem to : That Kirk Cousins is a Franchise QB worth a big contract. Lynch put it out there in layman's terms about the perceived "high cost" - he said what Cousins is after is the going rate for starting QB's. And it's true.

At the end of the day i still stick to my belief that Kirk Cousins is not a Redskin when the 2017 season begins. IMO, they have done enough to make that known even without coming out and saying it. Do i want him here? Hell yes, I think he's the best thing we've had here in 20 years. But do they want him here? Probably not. I know Gruden and all the others are doing their part in "coach speak" about Cousins, but like someone else said on here, saying they wanted him back was probably just a way to drive up his value so that someone trades away big to get him.

I am happy to eat crow if at the end of the day Cousins is resigned to a multi-year contract here. And i say i deserve it if that happens.

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[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;1164261]I read it earlier today and still feel happy that GM's and Coaches around the NFL are able to agree on what we can't seem to : That Kirk Cousins is a Franchise QB worth a big contract. Lynch put it out there in layman's terms about the perceived "high cost" - he said what Cousins is after is the going rate for starting QB's. And it's true.



At the end of the day i still stick to my belief that Kirk Cousins is not a Redskin when the 2017 season begins. IMO, they have done enough to make that known even without coming out and saying it. Do i want him here? Hell yes, I think he's the best thing we've had here in 20 years. But do they want him here? Probably not. I know Gruden and all the others are doing their part in "coach speak" about Cousins, but like someone else said on here, saying they wanted him back was probably just a way to drive up his value so that someone trades away big to get him.



I am happy to eat crow if at the end of the day Cousins is resigned to a multi-year contract here. And i say i deserve it if that happens.[/QUOTE]



I'm with you snake. From the tone of Cooley and Kevin it seems SM and or Dan is not in love with Kirk, and is willing to part with him for the right price.

I'm 43 and a lifelong Skins fan, but if they trade Kirk that will be it for me. I refuse to continue to support an organization that gets it wrong every time. That let's there ego or their bottom line effect there decisions. I mean really, did Kirk find Scott's liquor stash and poor it down the sink?? Why can't they for once be happy with our own guy and not always be looking for the shiny new car i.e. (Brad Johnson, Trent Green, Antonio Pierce, Ryan Clark, on and on again..) When is enough finally going to be enough..


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[quote=SolidSnake84;1164261]At the end of the day i still stick to my belief that Kirk Cousins is not a Redskin when the 2017 season begins. [/quote]

Are you aware that both Jay Gruden and Bruce Allen recently said they are certain that Kirk will be a Redskin next season? BA was asked to give a number on a scale of one to ten of the probability that Kirk would be back next season and he said "ten".

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For the right price even BRADY can be had..if someone offerd the SKINS 5 number one picks should they trade him...next five years we get there number one.. lets hear it !!! because Truth is everybody has a price..the question is what the price is..what is Cousins Price??

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did the Vikings not trade there entire draft for one player(walker)..who won that deal?what did we give up to draft RGIII ..who won that deal? IF YOU were the man in charge what would you trade Cousins for? ...I will go first His price would be this years #1 & #2 #5 and a starting D player..next years #1 & #2 and the next years #1 ..yes i would do that.in a second!

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[quote=mredskins;1164249]You mean Zo?[/quote]

Yes, I posted and left the CPU. I though I put LA or the one- man- gang

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1164266]Are you aware that both Jay Gruden and Bruce Allen recently said they are certain that Kirk will be a Redskin next season? BA was asked to give a number on a scale of one to ten of the probability that Kirk would be back next season and he said "ten".[/quote]

When the hell does that mean a god damn thing? Words are cheap. When we see Kirk smiling after signing a nice big contract then I will be happy. Until then anything said can be bunk that is said just to placate the fans and keep the competition guessing. You think they are going to let it slip out this early in the game if they are going to ditch him? Wait til the real negotiations start, then we will see if this is a bunch of hot air or not. Neither side is going to show its hand now. For all we know Kirk is going to intentionally highball his demands as to get the Skins to balk for all we know. Just let the chips fall where they will.

Re: Kirk Cousins 365 thread
 

[quote=SCRedskinsFan;1164242]I'm with you on that Schneed. I would sign KC at almost any conceivable cost, but I think he really does need more situational awareness than this play showed, no matter how much we liked it. You just can't risk it all on something so inconsequential as this game...[/quote]

If he asks for the moon I would not really fault our FO for not resigning him. I know it would be back to square one with finding a QB, but we could have Drew Brees in his prime back there and still wouldn't get anywhere close to a Lombardi Trophy with that defense. Overall Kirk improved tremendously stat wise, but didn't have a really great back stretch either. The AZ and Carolina games were real stinkers for the offense. I think we sign him, but if he goes nuts and way over inflates his asking price, I am not so sure even I would sign him. Just too many holes left in the team that offset having him come back for an extravagant price. We really don't have much depth all around either.