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[quote=MTK;1249559]Definitely don't agree with Payne and Allen being average... and while Clowney is moving on to a new team it's not because of his talent[/quote]

Average among their positions? Yes, Payne has been more consistent but there is no doubt that Allen has had multiple games where you didn't even know he was out there. Maybe it was the scheme, we'll find out I guess.

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[quote=Ohioskins;1249415]Interesting article in The Athletic by Bob McGinn, a big time pro talent evaluator reviewing the WR and TE's in the draft. He makes the point that while there are a lot of very talented receivers in the draft, he does not see any that are likely All-Pro, including guys like Jeudy. It is interesting because he breaks the players down by specific strengths and weaknesses. He does not see many of the receivers as genuine first round material, more like second, third and fourth round types. That suggests we may be able to find decent receiver talent, albeit with definite weaknesses, in the 3rd and 4th rounds. He does not see any of the TE candidates as going higher than the 3rd round other than possibly Kmet. He sees the Dayton kid as more of a 4th round pick as a TE.
All in all he sees a lot of talented but not All Pro caliber receivers whose success may depend upon how they are schemed and used.[/quote]

1st round wr's bust all the time anyway. That is the position imo with the most risk to draft in the 1st round. Plenty of productive wr's all around the league that are found in the middle rounds.

I like Thad Moss in the 3rd round if he's there. Yeah he's not a pure TE but all I ever saw him do was never drop a pass, get open and block pretty well. He looks like an H back type to me.

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Most of the time I see Allen being double teamed, you think that might have something to do with it?

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[quote=skinsfan69;1249587]1st round wr's bust all the time anyway. That is the position imo with the most risk to draft in the 1st round. Plenty of productive wr's all around the league that are found in the middle rounds.

I like Thad Moss in the 3rd round if he's there. Yeah he's not a pure TE but all I ever saw him do was never drop a pass, get open and block pretty well. He looks like an H back type to me.[/quote]

That seems too early to draft Moss, IMO, and I would be very surprised if he wasn't available at that point. Frankly, I'd pass on him in the 3rd. He should be there in the 4th round, IMO, in fact my guess is he would be available at our 2nd 4th round pick.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1249592]Most of the time I see Allen being double teamed, you think that might have something to do with it?[/quote]

It would be hard to double team Allen if we had Young.

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McGinn's analysis agrees that there are many WR who are a bust. He says the WR face the biggest change in the move from, college to pro because corners and safeties in the pros are so much better and faster than in college. He said the biggest factor separating success from failure for WR in pros is learning how to read, react and adjust to the actual coverage a WR get at the snap of the ball. His theory seems to fit in well with McLauren as a prime example of a guy who knows how to make the instinctive adjustment as a play is developing.

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[quote=Number44;1249595]It would be hard to double team Allen if we had Young.[/quote]

Exactly!! With the talent on our DL it would be dominant. You think the 49ers line is good? Ours will be much better with Young, DOMINANT!!

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I would give Trey Burton a contract.

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001109866/article/roundup-bears-cutting-te-trey-burton-after-2-years[/url]

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1249643]I would give Trey Burton a contract.

[url]http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001109866/article/roundup-bears-cutting-te-trey-burton-after-2-years[/url][/quote]

The collection of InjuRedskins is almost complete!

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I know it would take a draft pick but I would offer a 5th rd pick for O.J. Howard.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1249652]I know it would take a draft pick but I would offer a 5th rd pick for O.J. Howard.[/quote]

Me too. And I'd run off like a bandit. He is still young, he can get better. And he's loaded with physical talent. If Bucs ever offer that, it should be accepted before the end of the sentence.

I could live with a:

Howard
L. Thomas
Sprinkle or Rodgers

TE group. A 4th guy would be on the PS, most likely Hentges.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1249652]I know it would take a draft pick but I would offer a 5th rd pick for O.J. Howard.[/quote]Well we did for Kyle Allen. I don't know that Tampa's cap situation is conducive to Wiliams' contract so this may have to be entertained if a trade cannot get done. Still maintain we shy away from Howard. Again, it speaks volumes that Tampa wants to move him at 25. Brady loves tes. Almost inexplicable they would want to move a talent like Howard now.

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"Im told the Redskins will not pursure Oj Howard or Trey Burton at this time "

Keim

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1249684]"Im told the Redskins will not pursure Oj Howard or Trey Burton at this time "

Keim

Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk[/quote]Yup. The Rodgers/Thomas audition for next year for sure. Hope they get it done. A little surprised they didn't sniff either Howard/Burton but like the fact they are decisive.

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[quote=The Skinsinator;1249685]Yup. The Rodgers/Thomas audition for next year for sure. Hope they get it done. A little surprised they didn't sniff either Howard/Burton but like the fact they are decisive.[/quote]

Burton didn't do much, other than the last year with Eagles so I don't care about him although I'm kinda surprised about Howard.. Redskins weren't interested in trading for Hurst or Howard, and didn't do everything they could to sign Hooper (same efforts they put in with A. Cooper). This tells me that Redskins aren't that concerned about the TE position as we fans are. Logan Thomas looks athletic and can run, but he is still learning the position. Rodgers is just a back up player.. It's possible there are TEs in the draft that Redskins really like, or it's just that they don't want to force anything, just for sake of having a TE.