Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=SmootSmack;679992]So this is interesting...the Redskins are apparently holding private workouts with Sam Bradford and Jimmy Clausen...on the same day. April 15th. I must have my info crossed up, because I can't imagine they'd hold them on the same day. But that's the info I have now[/quote]

Let me ask this... PFT reported back when the Rams were supposedly having Clausen in for a work out that the NFL prohibits any work outs by draftee's unless its at the draftee's college, or hometown. So basically if this is true then all the Skins can do is talk football to see what knowledge they have, see if they would be interested in playing for the Skins, and give them a physical. Is this correct? or can the team actually put them through some throws?

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=SmootSmack;679992]So this is interesting...the Redskins are apparently holding private workouts with Sam Bradford and Jimmy Clausen...on the same day. April 15th. I must have my info crossed up, because I can't imagine they'd hold them on the same day. But that's the info I have now[/quote]

That WOULD be very interesting. Could be a good way to compare their talent and competitiveness with a little pressure on them. ;)

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=SBXVII;680015]

Recently though I've heard and read how [B]Clausen is climbing the board [/B]and has looked accurate and looks to have the arm strength. I'm not a homer. So whoever MS and KS feels would be best to run their offense would be satisfactory with me. I'm just not feeling the Tebow is our guy mancrush. Sorry.[/quote]

This feels a lot like Phillip Rivers when he came out. Awkward 3/4 release, brash personality, late climb on the draft boards. The only difference is that Rivers was more accomplished when he came out. Bottom line though is that if Mike and Kyle like him I will welcome him with open arms if then well it doesn't matter because they won't draft him.

In looking at everything though I feel that Clausen is a much better prospect then Cutler. Cutler had a lot of physical tools but limited production. Clausen on the other hand has some nice physical tools and much better production. Still my opinion right now is dependent on what our coaches think of him.

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=SBXVII;680020]Let me ask this... PFT reported back when the Rams were supposedly having Clausen in for a work out that the NFL prohibits any work outs by draftee's unless its at the draftee's college, or hometown. So basically if this is true then all the Skins can do is talk football to see what knowledge they have, see if they would be interested in playing for the Skins, and give them a physical. Is this correct? or can the team actually put them through some throws?[/quote]

Right, so on April 15th the Redskins are going to Norman, Oklahoma where they will work out Bradford

Tomorrow, Eric Berry is coming to Redskins Park where they will basically just conduct a job interview with him.

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

Has Shanahan or Allen been quoted as saying they love Clausen? I just keep hearing people say this but never a quote or factual comment. Just a rumor or is it real?

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=Defensewins;680037]Has Shanahan or Allen been quoted as saying they love Clausen? I just keep hearing people say this but never a quote or factual comment. Just a rumor or is it real?[/quote]

More then likely it would be people close to them "with knowledge of the situation." We'll see but right now I don't think we'll really know until draft day.

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=Defensewins;680037]Has Shanahan or Allen been quoted as saying they love Clausen? I just keep hearing people say this but never a quote or factual comment. Just a rumor or is it real?[/quote]

I've never heard it

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=SmootSmack;680042]I've never heard it[/quote]

I think people may be confusing that statement with him watching hours of college/pro tapes, which included Notre Dame, while he was off last season.

But I haven't heard him say anything specifically about Clausen either.

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

Clausen is a lot different than Cutler coming out. Cutler was a LOT more polished, even at football-starved Vanderbilt, stronger arm, quicker decisions, etc. Clausen is a lot [I]wiser[/I] of a passer, but his skills more unrefined. A 28/4 TD-INT rate is not something Cutler would or could have gotten anywhere near had he played at Notre Dame. Cutler is more of a chain-mover, keep firing, throw 50 times a game type. Clausen will probably lean on a running game.

On a pass-to-pass basis, Clausen is probably a better investment than Cutler was, but Cutler's tools and 4,000 yard ability are what made him so intriguing to teams last offseason (and made his obvious flaws ignorable). Bradford is much closer to Cutler than Clausen is (though I am not sure I would say Bradford compares favorably -- I might).

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=SmootSmack;680028]Right, so on April 15th the Redskins are going to Norman, Oklahoma where they will work out Bradford

Tomorrow, Eric Berry is coming to Redskins Park where they will basically just conduct a job interview with him.[/quote]

So back to the comment about Clausen and Bradford being worked out on the same day...... I presume DS, MS, KS, and whoever else wants to go will be flying around to visit two QB's and give them a work out?

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=GTripp0012;680052]Clausen is a lot different than Cutler coming out. Cutler was a LOT more polished, even at football-starved Vanderbilt, stronger arm, quicker decisions, etc. Clausen is a lot [I]wiser[/I] of a passer, but his skills more unrefined. A 28/4 TD-INT rate is not something Cutler would or could have gotten anywhere near had he played at Notre Dame. Cutler is more of a chain-mover, keep firing, throw 50 times a game type. Clausen will probably lean on a running game.

On a pass-to-pass basis, Clausen is probably a better investment than Cutler was, but Cutler's tools and 4,000 yard ability are what made him so intriguing to teams last offseason (and made his obvious flaws ignorable). Bradford is much closer to Cutler than Clausen is (though I am not sure I would say Bradford compares favorably -- I might).[/quote]

Very interesting point man. I have never been a fan of Cutler's QB skills. Clausen on the other hand I can see becoming quite a good QB with a balanced game, like you said.

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=SBXVII;680062]So back to the comment about Clausen and Bradford being worked out on the same day...... I presume DS, MS, KS, and whoever else wants to go will be flying around to visit two QB's and give them a work out?[/quote]

Replace DS with BA. Most likely DS will only meet them at Redskin Park, though he may go as well.

Anyhow, I guess that's how they'd do it. Still, I can't believe they're on the same day. Maybe they had no choice?

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=SBXVII;680062]So back to the comment about Clausen and Bradford being worked out on the same day...... I presume DS, MS, KS, and whoever else wants to go will be flying around to visit two QB's and give them a work out?[/quote]

Norman in the morning, South Bend in the afternoon? Now there's a heck of a day. I wonder what they are serving for lunch on Redskin One?

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=GTripp0012;680052]Clausen is a lot different than Cutler coming out. Cutler was a LOT more polished, even at football-starved Vanderbilt, stronger arm, quicker decisions, etc. Clausen is a lot [I]wiser[/I] of a passer, but his skills more unrefined. A 28/4 TD-INT rate is not something Cutler would or could have gotten anywhere near had he played at Notre Dame. Cutler is more of a chain-mover, keep firing, throw 50 times a game type. Clausen will probably lean on a running game.

On a pass-to-pass basis, Clausen is probably a better investment than Cutler was, but Cutler's tools and 4,000 yard ability are what made him so intriguing to teams last offseason (and made his obvious flaws ignorable). Bradford is much closer to Cutler than Clausen is (though I am not sure I would say Bradford compares favorably -- I might).[/quote]

I don't agree at all with you that Clausen's skills are unrefined. What I see in Clausen is a player with good footwork, a quick release, a good feel for and ability to avoid pass rushers while finding room to throw, good accuracy, good touch on the ball when needed, the ability to make all types of throws, and more. I think he'll be ready to start in the NFL sooner than any other QB in this draft.

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;680023]This feels a lot like Phillip Rivers when he came out. [B]Awkward 3/4 release[/B], brash personality, late climb on the draft boards. The only difference is that Rivers was more accomplished when he came out. Bottom line though is that if Mike and Kyle like him I will welcome him with open arms if then well it doesn't matter because they won't draft him.

In looking at everything though I feel that Clausen is a much better prospect then Cutler. Cutler had a lot of physical tools but limited production. Clausen on the other hand has some nice physical tools and much better production. Still my opinion right now is dependent on what our coaches think of him.[/quote]

His release is nearly identical to that of Kurt Warner. Check out some video on the two of them and I think you'll agree with me.