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Bubba305-ST21- 11-17-2011 03:22 AM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
in my eyes we need so much both of you guys are right. QB in the first round is a must though i feel unless none of those juniors come out then I would think about it. But i agree a receiver, olinemen, ilb if riley doesnt work, a cb, possibly a safety if laron bails on us. Still alot of question marks out there. But i agree I really like RGIII. He seems like a new breed, a remarkable freak athlete who is also extremely accurate and smart and bright and hard working. I think he is going to be special and would love to see him in the B&G. (if he comes out) my fingers are already crossed

Slingin Sammy 33 11-17-2011 08:10 AM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;860211]Heres the best, average, and worst case scenarios for each QB as how I see them.

RGIII:
BC- Mike Vick(more accurate) -
AC- Andy Dalton
WC- Vince Young
[/quote]

RGIII:
BC- Mike Vick(more accurate) - [I][B]My take, a faster Wareen Moon or Steve Young. [/B][/I]
AC- Andy Dalton
WC- Vince Young

Sonny9TD 11-17-2011 10:28 AM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
[quote=That Guy;860220]OL, OL, OL.

we don't need WRs, what we've got is fine. We DO need to keep our QB from getting killed and that includes injury insurance. we could use a starting OG, RT and a swing starter. the ONLY thing we should opt out of OL for is a QB.

any time you see average RBs or WRs or QBs doing well, it's probably because they can keep their uniforms clean.

moss/gaffney/hankerson/armstrong/davis/cooley will be fine, even if we lose a TE to free agency. very few WRs are randy moss like in production, especially year 1.[/quote]

You sure got that right.

sdskinsfan2001 11-17-2011 12:09 PM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;860235]RGIII:
BC- Mike Vick(more accurate) - [I][B]My take, a faster Wareen Moon or Steve Young. [/B][/I]
AC- Andy Dalton
WC- Vince Young[/quote]

I agree with you on this one - I think he is more of the Steve Young type but with even more speed. To me, the most recent comparison I see is Jake Locker but with better passing skills and accuracy.

Locker went in the top 10, so I think RGIII is definitely worth the Redskins taking this year. Plus the kid is smart and his teammates believe in him. That is the most important factor.

With our offensive system and with our line being a work in progress, RGIII is perfect because we can run the play actions, bootlegs, waggles, etc. etc.

I hope the Skins can make it happen.

SBXVII 11-17-2011 04:39 PM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
Ok maybe I'm the only idiot that does not understand why on earth the Skins would even entertain the thought of making a deal for or trading for P.Manning?

I sit back wondering what idiot would take the deal with the understanding he is the QB when he can't even get on the F-ing field right now and because of his diagnosis more then like won't be able to play for fear of being paralyzed if hit the wrong way. Other then hiring him to coach the QB's I see no reason to bring in another aged, washed up QB here who also will take time to learn the play calls and probably would be no more effective then a rookie drafted to play.

Bringing him in to coach- a steal

Bringing him in to play- idiotic

skinsfaninok 11-17-2011 04:46 PM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
The colts won't trade Manning

Dirtbag59 11-17-2011 04:50 PM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;860324]The colts won't trade Manning [B][COLOR="Red"]yet[/COLOR][/B][/quote]

Fixed it.

SBXVII 11-17-2011 05:00 PM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;860324]The colts won't trade Manning[/quote]

Thats a whole different topic.... "IF" Manning was still able to play and worth anything on the field.... why would they be stupid enough to trade him?

If they are looking to trade him or they cut him then he's washed up. Just like McNabb. No way a team who's had a QB for that long and has been taken to the SB by said QB will cut ties unless he's washed up or atleast is washed up to them.

Hog1 11-17-2011 05:23 PM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
Can anyone remember.....anything meaningful about the Colts between Baltimore and Peyton Manning? Yea....I can't either
Do the right thing...even if it costs you a buck or two. He retires a Colt. He has proven he is the heart of that team and nothing could prove it more than their current season. He built that team.
Do the right thing....

freddyg12 11-18-2011 12:37 PM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
[quote=Hog1;860329]Can anyone remember.....anything meaningful about the Colts between Baltimore and Peyton Manning? Yea....I can't either
Do the right thing...even if it costs you a buck or two. He retires a Colt. He has proven he is the heart of that team and nothing could prove it more than their current season. He built that team.
Do the right thing....[/quote]

I remember Dickerson, and then the Harbaugh team a little, AFC runner up in 95-6 I think. But yea, not much else.

MTK 11-18-2011 12:43 PM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
[quote=skinsfaninok;860324]The colts won't trade Manning[/quote]

I agree.

mooby 11-18-2011 12:44 PM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;860235]RGIII:
BC- Mike Vick(more accurate) - [I][B]My take, a faster Wareen Moon or Steve Young. [/B][/I]
AC- Andy Dalton
WC- Vince Young[/quote]

Who the hell is Wareen? Is he Warren Moon's half brother or someone I never heard of? :D

Butyeah I agree with your assessment.

CultBrennan59 11-18-2011 03:30 PM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
Random thought,
could you imagine how good the jets would be with Peyton?

SirClintonPortis 11-18-2011 03:57 PM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
[quote=CultBrennan59;860603]Random thought,
could you imagine how good the jets would be with Peyton?[/quote]

Pretty good, since Brian Schottenheimer would be practically be replaced by Manning as the OC. Plaxico and Santonio would be tearing it up in fantasy. `

Mechanix544 11-18-2011 04:48 PM

Re: Build the Redskins for 2012
 
We need a qb. instead of it being

"Best Player Available", for us, it looks like this.

"Best QB Available". Then an OL and a WR.

Not too worried about defense, and definitely not worried about TE or RB, Shanny has at least shown that he knows a thing or two about late round gems, or at least coaching them up the right way for them to be productive.

I wouldnt be mad if we draft a QB, then go WR in Second, and then OL in third and both of our 4ths.

If we think RG3 Or Tannehill could tumble a bit, trade down in the first round and see about adding a pick in the 2nd or 3rd. This would be the draft to trade down and still get a blue chipper QB. Alot of good - great talent, and not too many teams needing a QB. Other than Denver, miami, colts maybe and TB and Seattle, I think most teams are set. But it would be a gamble.


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