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[quote=skinsfaninok;874590]Raiders fire Hue Jackson sorry no link[/quote]

Hmm wonder if Rob Ryan applys?

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Lot of speculation that McKenzie will bring in someone from Green Bay. Philbin? Moss?...Favre? (I kid, I kid)

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Wonder if this means no more Palmer? Wow talk about a cluster **** organization

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Funny if they would have beaten San Diego the would have made the playoffs. wow, but they did play dead kinda like the skins in the last week.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;874590]Raiders fire Hue Jackson sorry no link[/quote]

[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/7447129/oakland-raiders-fire-coach-hue-jackson-1-year-source-says]Oakland Raiders fire coach Hue Jackson after 1 year, source says - ESPN[/url]

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thanks

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[url]https://twitter.com/#!/AdamSchefter/statuses/156807583573884928[/url]

Not the best source but usually a proven one.

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[quote=SmootSmack;874593]Lot of speculation that McKenzie will bring in someone from Green Bay. Philbin? Moss?...Favre? (I kid, I kid)[/quote]


I wouldn't touch that organization with a 1,000 mile pole. They have no 1st rounders for the next two years, and basically no draft picks this year except for the compensatory pick for Gallery/NA. The team isn't getting any younger and is only going to go downhill with the lack of talent via the draft. Also, I think their salary cap is dreadful if I remember correctly. Forecast looks bleak.

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sounds like Oakland is going to tear it down and rebuild

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[quote=NC_Skins;874607]I wouldn't touch that organization with a 1,000 mile pole. They have no 1st rounders for the next two years, and basically no draft picks this year except for the compensatory pick for Gallery/NA. The team isn't getting any younger and is only going to go downhill with the lack of talent via the draft. Also, I think their salary cap is dreadful if I remember correctly. Forecast looks bleak.[/quote]


They were ****ing stupid for the Palmer trade SMH, the skins always get clowned and rightfully so but we aren't as bad off as Oakland, don't be shocked to see DMAC, Seymour, Palmer, all gone

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[quote=skinsfaninok;874608]sounds like Oakland is going to tear it down and rebuild[/quote]

With what? They have no draft in which to rebuild with, and their are in cap trouble. According to latest cap figures, they were only $5million under the cap back in August 2011.

[url=http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/08/29/updated-salary-cap-space-numbers-for-all-32-teams/]NFL.com Blogs » Blog Archive Updated salary-cap space numbers for all 32 teams «[/url]

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I feel bad for the Raiders. Before Campbell and Run DMC injuries, they seem to have had a pretty decent team. They were really stupid on the Palmer trade and made a stupid owner (Mike Brown) look like a genius. They are pretty f'ed up now though. Still, that f'ed up team managed to get more wins that we did. I know they have no future, but we are really in no position to hold our noses up to any team.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;874611]They were ****ing stupid for the Palmer trade SMH, the skins always get clowned and rightfully so but we aren't as bad off as Oakland, don't be shocked to see DMAC, Seymour, Palmer, all gone[/quote]


Jackson dealing 2 firsts for Palmer is probably what cost him his job.


[quote]Jackson handled many personnel decisions in recent months after Davis' death. Jackson, who just completed his first season as head coach after being elevated from offensive coordinator, pulled off the highly debated October trade for quarterback Carson Palmer after starter Jason Campbell broke his collarbone.[/quote]

He should be fired for that trade alone, regardless even if they did make the playoffs.

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[quote=Ruhskins;874616] Still, that f'ed up team managed to get more wins that we did. I know they have no future, but we are really in no position to hold our noses up to any team.[/quote]

Only because they are in the shitty AFC West. Put them in AFC East or AFC North and they are well below .500

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[quote=NC_Skins;874619]Only because they are in the shitty AFC West. Put them in AFC East or AFC North and they are well below .500[/quote]

They still won games. Our team has lost a lot of games that we "should've won" over the past couple of seasons. As I said, they have no future and will likely be a 2 or 3 win team over the next couple of seasons. But our team has been pretty mediocre and has made bad decisions over the past couple of seasons. Not horrible ones like that idiotic Palmer trade, but still bad moves.

I get it that the arrow may be pointing slightly up with our organization. But let's not act like we're the Packers or the Patriots, and pretend like we have been a much better organization that then Raiders.