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@bucket , i like it

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[quote=Chico23231;1000260]Genie Girl > Flo

Fred Davis > Paulsen[/quote]

Flo and Paulsen will both give you the best bang for the buck. Saving money is important in this reduced-cap year and in general life.

Genie Girl and Davis will both bring a lot of Monday morning regret and questionable test results.

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[quote=Bucket;1000351]Yes, because a guy who can't make it on the field, is better then one who is.[/quote]

Well, to go to the Gaffney/Garcon comment, I would rather have had 9 solid games by Garcon(ie Winfield), then 16 underwhelming performances by Gaffney(ie Hall).

If he is healthy to start the season, which I assume the Skins will check, then I would rather have Winfield playing, and if a rookie has to sub in for a game or two then he gets some experience, maybe we see a guy step up, maybe we see a guy crash and burn, but the cornerback position is definitely going to be a work in progress for the next 2 years easily.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1000358]Well, to go to the Gaffney/Garcon comment, I would rather have had 9 solid games by Garcon(ie Winfield), then 16 underwhelming performances by Gaffney(ie Hall).

If he is healthy to start the season, which I assume the Skins will check, then I would rather have Winfield playing, and if a rookie has to sub in for a game or two then he gets some experience, maybe we see a guy step up, maybe we see a guy crash and burn, but the cornerback position is definitely going to be a work in progress for the next 2 years easily.[/quote]

16 bad games by Hall? I still can't figure out how so many people believe Hall played poorly last season.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1000361]16 bad games by Hall? I still can't figure out how so many people believe Hall played poorly last season.[/quote]

agreed

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[quote=Monkeydad;1000361]16 bad games by Hall? I still can't figure out how so many people believe Hall played poorly last season.[/quote]

Because he was inconsistent. He wasn't the worst corner and he is not terrible as some would say, but he isn't consistent enough to be considered good either. He is mediocre at best. Which means he deserves a mediocre salary.

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Hall had one terrific game at a crucial time. He also had a lot of bad games in some less "critical" games. He made an occasional spectacular good play. He also made some spectacularly bad plays. As a cover corner and as a run support/blitzer he was inconsistently average with few spectacular plays and more below average ones.

Part of me will be glad to see him gone so that we don't have to consistently have the irrational Hall Love/Hate debates. It's the LaVar Arrington (Lite) debates all over again.

He's a guy who can play corner in the NFL who brings an occasional sparkle. He is eminently replaceable.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1000354]Flo and Paulsen will both give you the best bang for the buck. Saving money is important in this reduced-cap year and in general life.

Genie Girl and Davis will both bring a lot of Monday morning regret and questionable test results.[/quote]

Very Nice lol :)

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One thing about Hall that he does have over Winfield. He has played 16 games for us the last three years and including the year we traded for him in the middle of the season he has missed 3 games for the Redskins in 5 years.

Winfield in the same time span and most in 2011 (11) has missed roughly 16 games.

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DHall seems like Jason Campbell. They are both so middle-of-the-road that they lend argument ammunition to both their fans and their haters alike.

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1000302]I've got us taking 4.[/quote]

That's why taking 5 in the draft is BOLD. lol. I really hope we address the RT position as well in the draft. Can't do everything in FA on financial fumes.

[QUOTE=Lotus;1000375]DHall seems like Jason Campbell. They are both so middle-of-the-road that they lend argument ammunition to both their fans and their haters alike.[/QUOTE]

Exactly.

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[quote=Lotus;1000375]DHall seems like Jason Campbell. They are both so middle-of-the-road that they lend argument ammunition to both their fans and their haters alike.[/quote]

So I guess it is inevitable that D Hall will now go to Oakland to compete for a starting job, where he will then break his leg and be out for the season. He will then subsequently be traded to the Chicago Bears for 2 boxes of Cracker Jacks and a $6 foot long. He will then be relegated to a back of role of insignificance.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1000305]Have you ever watched Hall play in a game?[/quote]

I mean, how many commentators/analysts remarked at Hall's inclination, nay, eagerness to put the effin hurt on the ball carrier last year? He's the toughest corner we've had in a long while IMO. Los could hit too (I was at the '08 home game vs the Browns when Los knocked a guy out of the game). But Los has a pretty big size advantage over Hall.

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[quote=donofriose;1000366]Because he was inconsistent. He wasn't the worst corner and he is not terrible as some would say, but he isn't consistent enough to be considered good either. He is mediocre at best. Which means he deserves a mediocre salary.[/quote]

We all know his salary was a bad deal for us...but his on-field performance is not as bad as many of you like to claim.

He's a lot better than anyone else in our price range right now. If we can get him down to what we're able to pay right now, I'd be glad to have him back. I'd also like to see another CB like Winfield come in. That would give us the option to use Hall as a nickel CB or even Free Safety where his tendency to attack the ball might suit his skill-set better...less man-on-man coverage and he'll probably have more INTs than ever.

We need to draft some solid CBs and Safeties regardless of who we sign in FA.