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U need the talent at the end of they day and we don't have it on defense yet.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;1105648]I dont give it anything because we havent played a down yet.[/quote]

Ditto.

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Russell was just on the Drive on ESPN 980.

He said that a very important voice in the organization explained they felt Fangio's success was in large part due to the outstanding talent he had and that they felt Barry got more with less.

Does anyone know:
1. Who the "voice" is and

2. If this led to Barry being hired or if this is spin after Fangio turned us down?

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I'd guess the voice is McCloughan. There's no way they didn't consult with him on this hire.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1105664]This defense is still going to struggle next year, regardless of who coaches it.[/quote]

Yeah it probably was going to be bad even if Vic Fangio had come here.

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Look at Fangio's D rankings prior to SF.

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/FangVi0.htm]Vic Fangio Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

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Hmmm. W/out elite talent, he is pretty average. Shock.

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It's important to note that he was the first defensive coordinator for two expansion teams in Houston and Carolina.

Regardless, Phillips was clearly the best choice, even over Fangio. Spare me the "he's too old" or "too soft" baloney. Players clearly respond to him, and his defenses don't appear to have been much less successful the older he's gotten. I'd feel better about our current front office if I knew SmootSmack's suspicion that Phillips wasn't as interested in coming here as has been reported was true, because passing over one of the most successful defensive coaches in the history of the league for a guy that orchestrated back-to-back defenses ranked league-worst in both yards and points is mind-boggling. Yeah, he may not have had much talent in Detroit, but if he's really a better option than Wade or Fangio you'd think he'd at least finish, I dunno, in the top 25 in either category just once? Maybe? For a start? But hey, we got a young guy with "energy" that "wants to prove himself" and has "grown" since his epic failure in Detroit. Yay! And anyway, who am I to think I know better than our front office? Because clearly, they've done an excellent job in their hires up to this point. Let's all pretend like we don't know how this ends.

That felt great. :D

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I wouldn't say the talent level with the bears is that much better - if at all. I wonder of it was for more job security than anything else.

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At the end of the day if Joe Barry can motivate these players, utilize the talents that each player has, put them in the right position to excel and hold them accountable then I am cool with the hire. They tried for Vic and lost.

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[quote=Mattyk;1105670]Look at Fangio's D rankings prior to SF.

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/FangVi0.htm]Vic Fangio Record, Statistics, and Category Ranks | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url][/quote]

Of course the same argument flies directly in the face of spurning Wade Phillips. All he's ever done is immediately improve the defense in his first season with a new team.

The only acceptable response for not hiring Wade is if Wade was not interested. I can't for the life of me understand it.

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[quote=Schneed10;1105678]Of course the same argument flies directly in the face of spurning Wade Phillips. All he's ever done is immediately improve the defense in his first season with a new team.

The only acceptable response for not hiring Wade is if Wade was not interested. I can't for the life of me understand it.[/quote]

Well said.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1105667]Russell was just on the Drive on ESPN 980.

He said that a very important voice in the organization explained they felt Fangio's success was in large part due to the outstanding talent he had and that they felt Barry got more with less.

Does anyone know:
1. Who the "voice" is and

2. If this led to Barry being hired or if this is spin after Fangio turned us down?[/quote]

According to Gruden, Vic was never offered the job

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Man I had to come to the WARPATH to rid my mind of all the negative vibes on that other site ..its unreal how folks calling for Haslet to be fired are now complaining about The new guy and he just got here..I will admit it does not seem like a big name flashy hire..but that has not worked out very good so far..The Redskin fans on sites i have checked into are very very negative about everything..I guess all the losing makes us that way..but at least on the surface it seems things are finally going in the right direction..we got a REAL GM..We have NEW O LINE COACH..NEW DC..AND ALL OUR DRAFT PICKS ..and we are sitting in the catbird seat at number 5..a lot of moves can be made there..i for one I'm going to get positive and at least give the Redskins half of next season to see where its going..I can tell you this much If we can win 8 games next year i will be happy..another draft and who knows ..gotta give it a chance!

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[quote=Schneed10;1105678]Of course the same argument flies directly in the face of spurning Wade Phillips. All he's ever done is immediately improve the defense in his first season with a new team.

The only acceptable response for not hiring Wade is if Wade was not interested. I can't for the life of me understand it.[/quote]

I don't think he was. I can't say for sure, but people I talk to within and close to the Redskins always left me with the impression that talks were never very serious re: Wade