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if we let Pot Roast walk, do we get a comp pick?

if so, will the fact that we only had him for 1 year mean we get a later pick?

not apples to apples but the bo sox make a habit of signing good FAs, letting them play out their contract then collecting a comp pick when they sign with someone else.

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[quote=los panda;1110389]sorry for not making that clear, i was comparing paea to salave'a. i expect a similar impact.

and maybe pot roast can give us more than daryl gardener gave us in 2002.[/quote]

Paea's last year was elite, but that was the only elite season of his career.

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[quote=Evilgrin;1110399]Paea's last year was elite, but that was the only elite season of his career.[/quote]i just have a feeling. joe was a solid contributor, i expect the same from paea; anything more will be a bonus to me.

similar to how i compared manti te'o to derek smith. i thought he'd have a similar impact/career but after 2 seasons, te'o isn't even meeting those expectations.

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[quote=Evilgrin;1110399]Paea's last year was elite, but that was the only elite season of his career.[/quote]

Some people take a little while to develop and then they rule for years. My magic eight ball says that this is true for Paea. :)

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[quote=los panda;1110400]i just have a feeling. joe was a solid contributor, i expect the same from paea; anything more will be a bonus to me.

similar to how i compared manti te'o to derek smith. i thought he'd have a similar impact/career but after 2 seasons, [B]te'o isn't even meeting those expectations.[/B][/quote]I blame his linebackers coach. Oh, wait...

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As with anything in football your performance is subject to the performance of those around you. Paea is positioned well to make a decent impact.

Knighton is that big body in the middle that we've been lacking, so lines will be forced to double team him when running the ball. That leaves Paea and Hatcher to attack upfield and shoot gaps to penetrate and disrupt, or just flat out set the edge in the run game.

Teams will try to run up the middle and run into a wall with Knighton. Backs will be forced to bounce it a bit, in which case Paea and Hatcher are quick and strong enough to set an edge. It should work well.

Paea will not have a lot of sacks for us. But that's not what he was brought here for. He can however provide enough of a push in the middle on passing downs to enable the edge rushers to get home. If Kerrigan gets 14 or 15 sacks, it will be in part thanks to Paea and Hatcher pushing the pocket on passing downs.

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[quote=Schneed10;1110404]As with anything in football your performance is subject to the performance of those around you. Paea is positioned well to make a decent impact.

Knighton is that big body in the middle that we've been lacking, so lines will be forced to double team him when running the ball. That leaves Paea and Hatcher to attack upfield and shoot gaps to penetrate and disrupt, or just flat out set the edge in the run game.

Teams will try to run up the middle and run into a wall with Knighton. Backs will be forced to bounce it a bit, in which case Paea and Hatcher are quick and strong enough to set an edge. It should work well.

Paea will not have a lot of sacks for us. But that's not what he was brought here for. He can however provide enough of a push in the middle on passing downs to enable the edge rushers to get home. If Kerrigan gets 14 or 15 sacks, it will be in part thanks to Paea and Hatcher pushing the pocket on passing downs.[/quote]

Outstanding analysis.

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[quote=Schneed10;1110404]As with anything in football your performance is subject to the performance of those around you. Paea is positioned well to make a decent impact.

Knighton is that big body in the middle that we've been lacking, so lines will be forced to double team him when running the ball. That leaves Paea and Hatcher to attack upfield and shoot gaps to penetrate and disrupt, or just flat out set the edge in the run game.

Teams will try to run up the middle and run into a wall with Knighton. Backs will be forced to bounce it a bit, in which case Paea and Hatcher are quick and strong enough to set an edge. It should work well.

Paea will not have a lot of sacks for us. But that's not what he was brought here for. He can however provide enough of a push in the middle on passing downs to enable the edge rushers to get home. If Kerrigan gets 14 or 15 sacks, it will be in part thanks to Paea and Hatcher pushing the pocket on passing downs.[/quote]

Hopefully Hatcher ' s health will make this a reality past 3 games into the season.

I love the guy but don't think he will be durable through next season.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1110411]Hopefully Hatcher ' s health will make this a reality past 3 games into the season.

I love the guy but don't think he will be durable through next season.[/quote]

Well, Bowen and Cofield are gone. Better health on the line should mean Hatcher can be rotated out more often.

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the line was really old, gotta be better

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Per NFL Mobile.. Dashon Goldson traded to the Redskins from the Bucs

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This would be the first signing that SM has done that I think really makes 0 sense. Why would you give up a draft pick for a 30 year old safety who's coming off two bad years? TB was awful the last few years and they were apparently going to cut him. Seems like a Bruce Allen type of signing.

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[quote=skinsfan69;1110561]This would be the first signing that SM has done that I think really makes 0 sense. Why would you give up a draft pick for a 30 year old safety who's coming off two bad years? TB was awful the last few years and they were apparently going to cut him. Seems like a Bruce Allen type of signing.[/quote]

Because the cost was a sixth rounder next year, in 2016, and he got back Goldson and Tampa's 7th rounder next year in 2016. So he basically slid down from the 6th to the 7th next year, just to get Goldson. It is basically a no cost move. The cap space used on Goldson is the much bigger cost in the equation, McCloughan basically recognized that the Bucs were going to cut him, so rather than having to bid for him and hand out a signing bonus in free agency he gave up inconsequential picks to take on the contract as is, which calls for very little in the way of guaranteed money the rest of the way.

It is essentially a no risk but high reward deal. If Goldson sucks then we cut him with no major cap consequences and no draft resources surrendered. And it's very likely that he is better than anything we currently have.

Given the high price teams are paying for safeties these days, and given how poor the draft is this year at safety, this is a terrific move.

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[quote=Schneed10;1110564]Because the cost was a sixth rounder next year, in 2016, and he got back Goldson and Tampa's 7th rounder next year in 2016. So he basically slid down from the 6th to the 7th next year, just to get Goldson. It is basically a no cost move. The cap space used on Goldson is the much bigger cost in the equation, McCloughan basically recognized that the Bucs were going to cut him, so rather than having to bid for him and hand out a signing bonus in free agency he gave up inconsequential picks to take on the contract as is, which calls for very little in the way of guaranteed money the rest of the way.

It is essentially a no risk but high reward deal. If Goldson sucks then we cut him with no major cap consequences and no draft resources surrendered. And it's very likely that he is better than anything we currently have.

Given the high price teams are paying for safeties these days, and given how poor the draft is this year at safety, this is a terrific move.[/quote]


Ok so the draft thing sort of equals out. That's good. Just seems like another Ryan Clark, one year rental type of deal. He's a big hitter and all but his best days are obviously behind him.

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[quote=DYoungJelly;1110411]Hopefully Hatcher ' s health will make this a reality past 3 games into the season.

I love the guy but don't think he will be durable through next season.[/quote]

I've always said Hatcher should only be used as a pass rush specialist like we used Jumpy Geathers back in the day. Bring him in only only in 2nd and 3rd and long. The regular 1st and 10 and running down DL should be a rotation of Knighton, Paea, Baker and Jean Francois.
I am hoping they do this so Hatcher can be healthy the entire season and most importmantly playoffs.