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skinsfan69 12-19-2023 04:40 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1354642]Yet the Patriots most likely will fire a 6 time SB winner. Never say never.[/quote]

I think it is well deserved. He's a losing head coach w/out Tom Brady. That is a fact. The great coaches can get it done w/ different types of teams, w/ different QB's. That is why I feel Kyle is the best. He just keeps winning games no matter who is under center.

SFREDSKIN 12-19-2023 04:54 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;1354713]I think it is well deserved. He's a losing head coach w/out Tom Brady. That is a fact. The great coaches can get it done w/ different types of teams, w/ different QB's. That is why I feel Kyle is the best. He just keeps winning games no matter who is under center.[/quote]

We know BB ain’t shit without Brady, but the National media and most writers will disagree with us, it’s all a popularity contest.

rocnrik 12-19-2023 04:58 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
Joe Gibbs was a master at winning with different QB's ... man those days were sweet !!

SFREDSKIN 12-19-2023 06:22 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=rocnrik;1354715]Joe Gibbs was a master at winning with different QB's ... man those days were sweet !![/quote]

That’s why he’s the best to me, all others had the same QB winning their SB’s.

jamf 12-19-2023 07:33 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=SFREDSKIN;1354717]That’s why he’s the best to me, all others had the same QB winning their SB’s.[/quote]

One thing that shouldn’t be overlooked is the quality of coaches he had on the team. Gibbs doesn’t have a coaching tree because he surrounded himself with proven coaches like Joe Bugel, Pettibon, Peccatiello and Wayne Sevier (San Diego Native!). Charley Taylor was a WRs coach!

Rivera surrounded himself with bums and it shows.

SFREDSKIN 12-19-2023 08:17 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=jamf;1354721]One thing that shouldn’t be overlooked is the quality of coaches he had on the team. Gibbs doesn’t have a coaching tree because he surrounded himself with proven coaches like Joe Bugel, Pettibon, Peccatiello and Wayne Sevier (San Diego Native!). Charley Taylor was a WRs coach!

Rivera surrounded himself with bums and it shows.[/quote]

Joe transferred his skills to NASCAR and built an awesome team. Some people just have greatness in them, Joe does. Who else has been inducted into 2 different HOF’s.

rocnrik 12-20-2023 09:19 AM

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Those were the days !! I get excited and sad at same time thinking about those teams .. I'm not sure we will ever get to that level again .. the league itself is so different ..

BaltimoreSkins 12-20-2023 09:34 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=rocnrik;1354736]Those were the days !! I get excited and sad at same time thinking about those teams .. I'm not sure we will ever get to that level again .. the league itself is so different ..[/quote]

Other than the late 30s and early 40s and the 80s. The franchise has been average to below. There was even a 25 year period where they didn't make the playoffs. Of course back then only a few teams made it not half the league.

SFREDSKIN 12-21-2023 12:32 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
Great interview between Keim and former GM Rick Spielman. You can skip to 5:17 when the interview begins.

[url]https://youtu.be/c7omaJ5ZSeo?si=ryc95BaVsmnkZiUC[/url]

CRedskinsRule 12-31-2023 05:37 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
I am excited to see who the ownership brings in. As much as I want to know, I also like that we aren't seeing the leaks and stories that were a hallmark of Snyder's pettiness.

Chief X_Phackter 12-31-2023 08:51 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;1355736]I am excited to see who the ownership brings in. As much as I want to know, I also like that we aren't seeing the leaks and stories that were a hallmark of Snyder's pettiness.[/quote]

Agreed. And I'm quite sure there is a short list of potential candidates already.

JackLord 01-01-2024 11:08 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1354738]Other than the late 30s and early 40s and the 80s. The franchise has been average to below. There was even a 25 year period where they didn't make the playoffs. Of course back then only a few teams made it not half the league.[/quote]

Not quite.

George Allen had a record of 67-30-1 from 1971 to 1977. That included playoff appearances and an appearance in Super Bowl VII. The Skins were quite good for most of the 1970s.

I would describe the 2nd glory period as starting with Lombardi's sole season and ending with Gibbs' departure. Even Jack Pardee, the link between Allen and Gibbs, went .500 in his three years. Better than a lot of coaches this century.

So yea, it comes down to the Baugh era and the Lombardi to Gibbs era. Otherwise there have been some long periods of malaise.

BaltimoreSkins 01-01-2024 01:25 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=JackLord;1355796]Not quite.

George Allen had a record of 67-30-1 from 1971 to 1977. That included playoff appearances and an appearance in Super Bowl VII. The Skins were quite good for most of the 1970s.

I would describe the 2nd glory period as starting with Lombardi's sole season and ending with Gibbs' departure. Even Jack Pardee, the link between Allen and Gibbs, went .500 in his three years. Better than a lot of coaches this century.

So yea, it comes down to the Baugh era and the Lombardi to Gibbs era. Otherwise there have been some long periods of malaise.[/quote]

I thought about including the 70's. I wasn't sure if a single Super Bowl appearance was enough to warrant an above average but that record is no joke. It definitely was a great decade for Redskins football.

JackLord 01-01-2024 06:52 PM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
[quote=BaltimoreSkins;1355806]I thought about including the 70's. I wasn't sure if a single Super Bowl appearance was enough to warrant an above average but that record is no joke. It definitely was a great decade for Redskins football.[/quote]

The Over the Hill Gang paid immediate dividends. But they were all ancient by the time Pardee, himself an OTH member, took over.

Should be better days soon. :)

SFREDSKIN 01-02-2024 12:23 AM

Re: Potential GM/HC/Coaches Thread
 
Kalen DeBoer and his OC Ryan Grubb would be on my list for HC candidates as well as Michael MacDonald DC for the Ravens.


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