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Chico23231 07-08-2020 11:53 AM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
Unfortunately the fact remains there has not been any substantial counter protest...and counter violence against the protesters.

SunnySide 07-08-2020 11:56 AM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
[QUOTE=Chico23231;1254314


And yes all the violence has been attributed to leftist liberal violence. I know the media tried and hoped these alt right figures would show up, but never happened. All the rioting, looting,shootings and murders were all caused by liberals.

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The FBI announced Tuesday that Steven Carrillo, the U.S. Air Force sergeant who allegedly murdered law enforcement officers in California during protests earlier this month, was associated with the right-wing Boogaloo movement, and that Carrillo chose the timing of his attacks to "take advantage of a time when this nation was mourning the killing of George Floyd."

[url]https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/06/16/accused-killer-of-california-cops-was-associated-with-right-wing-boogaloo-movement/#7deb7d1559bd[/url]

Chico -- I am continually amazed at your ability to always see anything and everything in absolutes. Both sides have their issues and problem makers.

Rarely, when talking about anything but especially politics, are there absolutes.

Chico23231 07-08-2020 12:00 PM

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[quote=SunnySide;1254326][QUOTE=Chico23231;1254314


And yes all the violence has been attributed to leftist liberal violence. I know the media tried and hoped these alt right figures would show up, but never happened. All the rioting, looting,shootings and murders were all caused by liberals.

/QUOTE]

The FBI announced Tuesday that Steven Carrillo, the U.S. Air Force sergeant who allegedly murdered law enforcement officers in California during protests earlier this month, was associated with the right-wing Boogaloo movement, and that Carrillo chose the timing of his attacks to "take advantage of a time when this nation was mourning the killing of George Floyd."

[url]https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/06/16/accused-killer-of-california-cops-was-associated-with-right-wing-boogaloo-movement/#7deb7d1559bd[/url]

Chico -- I am continually amazed at your ability to always see anything and everything in absolutes. Both sides have their issues and problem makers.

Rarely, when talking about anything but especially politics, are there absolutes.[/quote]

99% of violence is caused by leftist during the violent protests and riots. Bad faith argument there chief

SunnySide 07-08-2020 12:01 PM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
[quote=Chico23231;1254325]Unfortunately the fact remains there has not been any substantial counter protest...and counter violence against the protesters.[/quote]

I cant with you today ... seriously.

Theres been a ton of counter protests with a ton of violence and murder ... most of the photos I showed you were from different counter protests and each one of them had counter protestors doing violent things.

Have a good day man.

Chico23231 07-08-2020 12:27 PM

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[quote=SunnySide;1254328]I cant with you today ... seriously.

Theres been a ton of counter protests with a ton of violence and murder ... most of the photos I showed you were from different counter protests and each one of them had counter protestors doing violent things.

Have a good day man.[/quote]

I’ve look at multiple news orgs, there has been very little to none right wing violence aimed at the protesters. There just hasn’t been. You can post all the pictures you want, but the fact remains. I don’t know where you are getting them and they don’t seem significant. Also the media def would be elevating these stories nationally.

There has been a handful of counter protesters in areas, but they are a very small contingent. ADL has tracked ...but they report such thing 2 people with confederate flag stood at a nearby corner while people protested...so its random and unorganized.



But a narrative of white supremaciest marching against BLM, statue removal, alt right violence, etc...it hasn’t happened. Facts are facts. And I think it’s great to see, right?

Giantone 07-08-2020 12:37 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;1254327][quote=SunnySide;1254326]

99% of violence is caused by leftist during the violent protests and riots. Bad faith argument there chief[/quote]

Back that up with a link or STFU.

SunnySide 07-08-2020 12:56 PM

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Studies show that right-wing extremist groups are much more violent than left-wing ones. For instance, 90 percent of the extremist-related murders in the US in 2019 were linked to right-wing extremists, according to an Anti-Defamation League study.

one of the first arrests was of three right-wing extremists who plotted to cause problems in Las Vegas, which Trump AG Bill Barr declined to address in a news conference June 4.

In addition, two members of the far-right “boogaloo boys,” whose members wear Hawaiian shirts while reportedly plotting a race war, were arrested on rioting charges during a protest in Columbia, S.C. One was a paramedic who was subsequently fired.

One of the first arrests for violence during Minneapolis protests was of Matthew Lee Rupert of Galesburg, Ill. He reportedly filmed himself setting a building on fire and taking some items from a store. He made social media posts in support of Trump and against police.

There are indications of a planned response by far-right groups. Media reports have documented that a white supremacist channel on the messaging app Telegram encouraged followers to commit violence during George Floyd protests, according to an internal Department of Homeland Security intelligence note.

A Twitter account claiming to be from Antifa that advocated violence was actually run by the white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to an NBC report.
[url]https://medium.com/@kevinjshay44/right-wing-provocateurs-likely-inflaming-protest-violence-bcf1c48e1d40[/url]
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Ample objective evidence that there are violent assholes on both extremes.

I cant take you seriously.

Chico23231 07-08-2020 01:10 PM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
[quote=SunnySide;1254328]I cant with you today ... seriously.

[B]Theres been a ton of counter protests with a ton of violence and murder[/B] ... most of the photos I showed you were from different counter protests and each one of them had counter protestors doing violent things.

Have a good day man.[/quote]

Post these please...

You know what...I’ll post the deaths of everyone killed at the protests when I get a second. Every single death and shootings. We will see

Chico23231 07-08-2020 01:46 PM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
[url]https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29428606/stephen-jackson-says-eagles-desean-jackson-speaking-truth-controversial-posts[/url]

Stephen Jackson another anti Semitic piece of shit.

Giantone 07-08-2020 09:17 PM

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This is about 3/4 years old.

[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=176&v=bVS52zoTLjo&feature=emb_logo[/url]

Jimbo 07-08-2020 11:38 PM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
This shit will all end when trump wins and republicans take back the house and keep senate then we can put that in the history books

Jimbo 07-08-2020 11:46 PM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
[quote=SunnySide;1254337]Studies show that right-wing extremist groups are much more violent than left-wing ones. For instance, 90 percent of the extremist-related murders in the US in 2019 were linked to right-wing extremists, according to an Anti-Defamation League study.

one of the first arrests was of three right-wing extremists who plotted to cause problems in Las Vegas, which Trump AG Bill Barr declined to address in a news conference June 4.

In addition, two members of the far-right “boogaloo boys,” whose members wear Hawaiian shirts while reportedly plotting a race war, were arrested on rioting charges during a protest in Columbia, S.C. One was a paramedic who was subsequently fired.

One of the first arrests for violence during Minneapolis protests was of Matthew Lee Rupert of Galesburg, Ill. He reportedly filmed himself setting a building on fire and taking some items from a store. He made social media posts in support of Trump and against police.

There are indications of a planned response by far-right groups. Media reports have documented that a white supremacist channel on the messaging app Telegram encouraged followers to commit violence during George Floyd protests, according to an internal Department of Homeland Security intelligence note.

A Twitter account claiming to be from Antifa that advocated violence was actually run by the white nationalist group Identity Evropa, according to an NBC report.
[url]https://medium.com/@kevinjshay44/right-wing-provocateurs-likely-inflaming-protest-violence-bcf1c48e1d40[/url]
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Ample objective evidence that there are violent assholes on both extremes.

I cant take you seriously.[/quote]
If you only watch CNN or MSNBC then you might still believe the earth is flat you need to watch the other side with an open mind and make up your own mind and not let someone make it for you

MTK 07-08-2020 11:55 PM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
[URL="https://www.npr.org/2020/06/21/880963592/vehicle-attacks-rise-as-extremists-target-protesters"]Vehicle Attacks Rise As Extremists Target Protesters[/URL]

sdskinsfan2001 07-09-2020 04:41 AM

Re: When is Enough ,Enough?
 
I'm a flat earther, tired of all you [insert body part of choice, to not be sexist], going to bed way before me, and not giving me any reading material.

Edit - I posted this before I saw that Matty posted an article with a disengenous headline. No, not blaming Matty, blaming whatever editor approved the caption.

sdskinsfan2001 07-09-2020 04:52 AM

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[quote=MTK;1254414][URL="https://www.npr.org/2020/06/21/880963592/vehicle-attacks-rise-as-extremists-target-protesters"]Vehicle Attacks Rise As Extremists Target Protesters[/URL][/quote]

C'mon man. Love how the headline says extremists then the article only talks about "right wing extremists". There is nothing right wing about the KKK or any other white only nationalists. And there is nothing left-wing about them either. They are just racist fucking organizations that are assholes. Please tell me what conversative values I share with people in the KKK or similar racist organizations. I'll respond point by point vs your response vs what actual conservative values stand for.


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