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[quote=angryssg;334137]So uh, who is going to sign Vick in 2013? Any thoughts?[/quote]

He may be guilty but he ain't doing any time for this. Even if he does some time it's not going to be anything significant. He is going to loose 07 and that's probably it. His days in Atl are over, but he'll be on someones roster next year.

I could see him going somewhere like KC. I'm not sure what the hell KC is thinking putting their future in the hands of Broodie Croyle. Vick probably needs a guy like Herm Edwards as his HC. Like a lot of these guys, he really needs somewhat of a father figure that he really respects. Whether the KC organization would want him is another story.

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[quote=skinsfan69;333891]Personally, I think Vick has a little bit of thug in him. He knew what was going on in his house. But how big his role was needs to play out in the courts. My point was you have all these people at the Falcons practice facility protesting. For what??? Vick isn't even there so why are they there??? If they want to protest go to Richmond or find somthing better to do. It makes no damn sense. People need to just chill out.[/quote]
Its PETA people and this is the kind of stuff they do. Their home base is located here in Norfolk, Va. so they are in the local news very often. The reason they are protesting the Falcons is to put preasure on them to get rid of Vick even though he has not been found guilty of the crimes. I think that the Falcons are in a tough spot because of the nature of the crimes that he is acused of but he has not been convicted of anything. I'll agree that the media goes wild over this stuff and everyone wants to be the first to report on what going on but anyone with his high profile would get the same treatment. It just goes with the job and fame.

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[url=http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/07/30/vick.dogfighting/index.html]Vick co-defendant pleads guilty - CNN.com[/url]
[QUOTE]One of the co-defendants in the Michael Vick federal dogfighting case entered a guilty plea on Monday and pledged to fully cooperate with prosecutors.[/QUOTE]

I wonder if this means that things are about to get even worse for Vick.

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Anyone remember what Leonard Little did of the Rams? He was driving drunk and wrecked into a women and killed her. Then he got caught driving drunk again after he killed someone. Yet, he is still playing in the NFL. This guy should have been thrown out of the league. What he did was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse than what Vick did. But if I remember correctly, his case did not get nearly the media attention this case is getting.

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[QUOTE=ArtMonkDrillz;334216][url=http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/law/07/30/vick.dogfighting/index.html]Vick co-defendant pleads guilty - CNN.com[/url]


I wonder if this means that things are about to get even worse for Vick.[/QUOTE]

Very much so. This guy will be the star witness for the prosecution and he will make Vick look very bad. I really think Vick is going to jail.

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Leonard Little definately did something that had far, far, far worse consequences. But, he's nowhere near the star that Vick is/was. So, I can understand why Vick's case is getting so much press whereas Little's case didn't.

As for Vick doing time, federal judges must give a sentence within a certain range. I know the federal sentencing guidelines quite well (I worked on a few appeals relating to them) and if Vick is found guilty on all the charges, he's no going to be playing football anytime soon. You hear about sentences in state cases being really strange/light/inconsistent, but we're talking about federal charges. Different story.

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[QUOTE=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;334238]Leonard Little definately did something that had far, far, far worse consequences. But, he's nowhere near the star that Vick is/was. So, I can understand why Vick's case is getting so much press whereas Little's case didn't.

As for Vick doing time, federal judges must give a sentence within a certain range. I know the federal sentencing guidelines quite well (I worked on a few appeals relating to them) and if Vick is found guilty on all the charges, he's no going to be playing football anytime soon. You hear about sentences in state cases being really strange/light/inconsistent, but we're talking about federal charges. Different story.[/QUOTE]

I heard that about Federal sentences on some talk show but wondered if it was really true. It sounds like it is. Thanks for making that clear. If Vick is found guilty of the crime he will do the time.

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[QUOTE=irish;334249]I heard that about Federal sentences on some talk show but wondered if it was really true. It sounds like it is. Thanks for making that clear. If Vick is found guilty of the crime he will do the time.[/QUOTE]

What I said is not entirely accurate, but it is basically true. Since about 2002, the federal sentencing guidelines have been, technically, merely advisory and not mandatory. That said, federal judges very rarely depart from the sentencing guidelines. So while my previous post was not entirely accurate, the substance (i.e., if Vick is convicted on all the charges he will see a lot of jail time) was correct.

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the feds are really out to get his ass and send him to jail.one of his co-defendants plead guilty today and will no doubt testify against vick.since his
trial is november 23rd,i can't see him playing this year much,if at all.if this is'nt cleared up within the next5 weeks,i can't see him playing at all!if he gets cut and hope the redskins pursue him when all his troubles clear up!

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[QUOTE=skinsfan69;334209]He may be guilty but he ain't doing any time for this. Even if he does some time it's not going to be anything significant. He is going to loose 07 and that's probably it. His days in Atl are over, but he'll be on someones roster next year.

I could see him going somewhere like KC. I'm not sure what the hell KC is thinking putting their future in the hands of Broodie Croyle. Vick probably needs a guy like Herm Edwards as his HC. Like a lot of these guys, he really needs somewhat of a father figure that he really respects. Whether the KC organization would want him is another story.[/QUOTE]

I'm sure the Raiders wouldn't be scared off by his felony. They'd probably embrace him.

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[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;334238]Leonard Little definately did something that had far, far, far worse consequences. But, he's nowhere near the star that Vick is/was. So, I can understand why Vick's case is getting so much press whereas Little's case didn't.

As for Vick doing time, federal judges must give a sentence within a certain range. I know the federal sentencing guidelines quite well (I worked on a few appeals relating to them) and if Vick is found guilty on all the charges, he's no going to be playing football anytime soon. You hear about sentences in state cases being really strange/light/inconsistent, but we're talking about federal charges. Different story.[/quote]
If he is convicted of the crimes I've heard thats when the killing and abuse will come back against Vick. They will point out how brutle what they did was and ask for the maximum time against him. I also think that this guy who pleaded with them is going to hurt Vick allot. They can discredit him some but they can find people to back up his story. Like he said he found the house for vick so then they can just look up the Realtor who he delt with to back up his story.