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[quote=KI Skins Fan;680118]I don't agree at all with you that Clausen's skills are unrefined. What I see in Clausen is a player with good footwork, a quick release, a good feel for and ability to avoid pass rushers while finding room to throw, good accuracy, good touch on the ball when needed, the ability to make all types of throws, and more. I think he'll be ready to start in the NFL sooner than any other QB in this draft.[/quote]

Can there possibly be some one who agrees with me on going after Clausen? Wow amazing

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[quote=IrMitchell;680125]Can there possibly be some one who agrees with me on going after Clausen? Wow amazing[/quote]

Like I said before it depends on what the Shanahans think. Personally my eyes like Clausen on film but I'm not a scout, just an above average fan.

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I still have a feeling the Redskins are going to make a pre-draft move to get Bradford. I could see us sending Rocky McIntosh, Fred Davis, swap firsts this year, and possibly our first in 2011 to move up to take Bradford. The Rams would then take Clausen at four. I know most on this board will be livid with such a move but Shanahan and Allen are very bold and have the guts to go and get their man. Also, Bradford will not sign a pre-draft deal with the Rams which indicates he doesn't want to be a part of a team with no owner, poor fan attendance, and a dreadful team. This could become a John Elway or Eli Manning deal.

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[quote=SkinsfanNTX;680208]I still have a feeling the Redskins are going to make a pre-draft move to get Bradford. I could see us sending Rocky McIntosh, Fred Davis, swap firsts this year, and possibly our first in 2011 to move up to take Bradford. The Rams would then take Clausen at four. I know most on this board will be livid with such a move but Shanahan and Allen are very bold and have the guts to go and get their man. Also, Bradford will not sign a pre-draft deal with the Rams which indicates he doesn't want to be a part of a team with no owner, poor fan attendance, and a dreadful team. This could become a John Elway or Eli Manning deal.[/quote]

Yeah, part of me says that Jimmy Clausen is a better choice and to stick with some of our guys who have trade value. The other part says we're missing out on a future superstar quarterback in Bradford. Again it wouldn't surprise me also if we end up taking a guy like Okung?

Who else is excited for Jimmy Clausen's pro day? Let's hope he answers all the questions and helps us make a clear decision.

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I feel like Bradford is on the hype machine, every year it is some guy. How can every year produce a next great QB?

Look at last year would you rather have had Sanchez or Stafford now after their first year?

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[quote=mredskins;680232]I feel like Bradford is on the hype machine, every year it is some guy. How can every year produce a next great QB?

Look at last year would you rather have had Sanchez or Stafford now after their first year?[/quote]

I think you gotta take Stafford first year with a grain of salt. He was on a really really bad team. I dont think you can say Sanchez is the better QB at this point b/c of the playoffs, even though regardless of what hater rhetoric is spewed, first the drive to get in the playoffs and then the playoffs run itself was extremely impressive. I laugh when people say ooohh the QB had nothing to do with that...really??? I mean he is the guy driving the offense, giving the ball to people every offensive play, and people look and listen to him in the huddle.You gotta have something to do that. Put your bs stats up your a$$, the guy overachieved helped lead his team almost to the superbowl.
Stafford was impressive as well showing how tough he was, playing through injury, and basically played the QB position better than anyone in Detroit the previous 3-4 years. Its too way to early to say who is better at this point, but both were excellent in their first year. In the long run...ill say Stafford will be better and would take him.

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[quote=mredskins;680232]I feel like Bradford is on the hype machine, every year it is some guy. How can every year produce a next great QB?

Look at last year would you rather have had Sanchez or Stafford now after their first year?[/quote]

Yep.
This time last year there wasn't a doubt in my mind that Matthew Stafford was the best quarterback in the draft. Sanchez was still an option, but Stafford was just too good for the lions to pass up. Looking back, I still think Stafford's better but Sanchez still managed to produce better so who really knows.

Personally I think it's tough to throw Stafford or Bradford on one of the two worst teams in the league and then say to produce like you were expected to. If you were to put them on a team that has potential to be good as is, it's a completely different story (Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco).

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[url=http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Diner-morning-news-Do-the-Skins-want-Clausen.html]Diner morning news: Do the ‘Skins want Clausen? | National Football Post[/url]

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If we are going to select Jimmy Clausen then I want the Lions to select Okung at 2. Mainly because they would be in the running for any of the tackles like Saffold and Brown that might drop from round 1, the lay off between round 1 and round 2 also isn't going to give us much help unless we try to trade down.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;680381]If we are going to select Jimmy Clausen then I want the Lions to select Okung at 2. Mainly because they would be in the running for any of the tackles like Saffold and Brown that might drop from round 1, the lay off between round 1 and round 2 also isn't going to give us much help unless we try to trade down.[/quote]

That's a good point. They probably will take an OT right before us in round #2. Assuming the skins are staying at #4 I would still prefer that Okoung & Clausen are both available. That way they would have thier choice of the 2. If they draft Clausen at #4 I want it to be because they love him not because their other options are all gone.

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[quote=Dirtbag359;680381]If we are going to select Jimmy Clausen then I want the Lions to select Okung at 2. Mainly because they would be in the running for any of the tackles like Saffold and Brown that might drop from round 1, the lay off between round 1 and round 2 also isn't going to give us much help unless we try to trade down.[/quote]

yeah that is a good point/way of looking at things. nicely done.

at this point, sitting at no 4, i am good with however we pick; be it okung, claussen, suh, mccoy, berry. im really at a toss up btw claussen and okung. i havent really considered bradford as i dont think he will be there at 4.

any way this shapes up, we are good. we should be able to add 2 starting or atleast competing right-away players (qbs excused).

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[url=http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/nfl-draft/jimmy-clausen-defends-his-repu.html]Redskins Insider - Jimmy Clausen defends his reputation on the field and off[/url]

Re: Jimmy Clausen has met with the Redskins
 

[quote=Dirtbag359;680381]If we are going to select Jimmy Clausen then I want the Lions to select Okung at 2. Mainly because they would be in the running for any of the tackles like Saffold and Brown that might drop from round 1, the lay off between round 1 and round 2 also isn't going to give us much help unless we try to trade down.[/quote]The Chiefs pick ahead of us in round 2, so I think it'd be better for us if they got Okung (if we didn't). The Lions may or may not address OT in this draft (I imagine they will because it's critical for top offenses, but, it's not a "need" for them).

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[quote=GTripp0012;680479]The Chiefs pick ahead of us in round 2, so I think it'd be better for us if they got Okung (if we didn't). The Lions may or may not address OT in this draft (I imagine they will because it's critical for top offenses, but, it's not a "need" for them).[/quote]Ummm, yeah it is a need for them. Their current LT is eventually going to move to guard or be a backup/retire. Besdies, Stafford got a busted shoulder last year.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;680484]Ummm, yeah it is a need for them. Their current LT is eventually going to move to guard or be a backup/retire. Besdies, Stafford got a busted shoulder last year.[/quote]A plan to get your best five lineman on the field doesn't make a need.

LG is a major need for them, although I'm not sure that they need to use the second overall pick in order to fill it. I imagine that if they took Okung with pick No. 2, he'd play RT and Gosder Cherlius would find a new position (bench). Eventually, he'd be their LT. But I doubt they're looking for a LT for this upcoming season.