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RedskinRat 10-16-2012 10:44 AM

Re: Kudos to RG III
 
[quote=NC_Skins;953067]RGIII needs to work on that 3rd down QB rating before he can touch a MVP trophy. He's got a long way to go, but he's done a great job so far.[/quote]

I would add that there are WR drops that can be attributed to poor 3rd down conversion as well as poor blocking on runs.

RGIII is that great. Just wait until the rest of the team catches up.

artmonkforhallofamein07 10-16-2012 10:57 AM

Re: Kudos to RG III
 
He just put up a 97.5 QBR in week 6 (the best in the league for a single game all year) and ranks sixth his total QBR through six games. Guess who is number 7.... Andrew Luck.

RGIII is who this team needed. Thanks Colts for drafting Luck, because this is our guy.

artmonkforhallofamein07 10-16-2012 11:02 AM

Re: Kudos to RG III
 
[QUOTE=NC_Skins;953067]No. He's not. Matt Ryan would be a MVP winner right now more than anybody. Also, this is the one thing that bothered me about getting RGIII. Fans will overlook anything and put them on a pedestal. [B]RGIII needs to work on that 3rd down QB rating before he can touch a MVP trophy. He's got a long way to go, but he's done a great job so far.[/[/B]QUOTE]

I for one don't think he has earned a MVP award, though he should be considered, and as far as that third down rating I want you to look at how many third downs he is trying to convert beyond 3rd and 5. That is where we are having problems, is getting a dumb penalty or having a bad run and getting stuck with 3rd and 9 or 3rd and 15. We shoot our selves in foot more often than not at times, and asking a guy to convert something that long on a consistent basis can be difficult.

Monkeydad 10-16-2012 11:47 AM

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His last 40 yards of the 76-yard run was timed at exactly 4.0 seconds...sure he had a running start but he was looking back, slowing down and high-stepping. Amazing.


Source:
[url=http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2012/oct/15/initial-thoughts-redskins-38-vikings-26/]Initial Thoughts: Redskins 38, Vikings 26 - Washington Times[/url]
[QUOTE]
Griffin’s 76-yard touchdown is the stuff of legends. (Read Griffin's description of how he experienced the play.) Such game-changing, explosive plays are why you trade three first-round picks and a second-rounder to move up to draft him. It was special for so many reasons.

First, the speed. Griffin planted his back foot at the Redskins’ 15-yard line. He reached the end zone 10.8 seconds later. That’s a 40-yard dash pace of 4.89 seconds, and he ran laterally to the sideline after breaking the line of scrimmage and then slowed down in the final five yards. But even with the slowdown at the end of the run, [B]he ran the last 60 yards in a straight line in 6.1 seconds and the last 40 yards in 4.0. [/B]That is unreal. “Speed kills” is a cliché because it’s true. With the Redskins teetering on the brink of collapse, Griffin’s speed put the Vikings to the sword.


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punch it in 10-16-2012 11:57 AM

[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;953121][QUOTE=NC_Skins;953067]No. He's not. Matt Ryan would be a MVP winner right now more than anybody. Also, this is the one thing that bothered me about getting RGIII. Fans will overlook anything and put them on a pedestal. [B]RGIII needs to work on that 3rd down QB rating before he can touch a MVP trophy. He's got a long way to go, but he's done a great job so far.[/[/B]QUOTE]

I for one don't think he has earned a MVP award, though he should be considered, and as far as that third down rating I want you to look at how many third downs he is trying to convert beyond 3rd and 5. That is where we are having problems, is getting a dumb penalty or having a bad run and getting stuck with 3rd and 9 or 3rd and 15. We shoot our selves in foot more often than not at times, and asking a guy to convert something that long on a consistent basis can be difficult.[/QUOTE]

Exactly. Matt Ryan isnt relegated to the third and longs all the time. Its like how everyone wants to say eli is a great come from behind - fourth quarter qb. Well eli and the gints put themselves in those come from behind positions in the first place. Lol. Also if i could have matt ryan (as a rookie) or rg3 i would take rg3 in a heartbeat. Matt ryan has two of the best wr's and a hell of a team around him.


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firstdown 10-16-2012 12:01 PM

Re: Kudos to RG III
 
[quote=Monkeydad;953136]His last 40 yards of the 76-yard run was timed at exactly 4.0 seconds...sure he had a running start but he was looking back, slowing down and high-stepping. Amazing.


Source:
[URL="http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/redskins-watch/2012/oct/15/initial-thoughts-redskins-38-vikings-26/"]Initial Thoughts: Redskins 38, Vikings 26 - Washington Times[/URL][/quote]

All while he had a smile from ear to ear. I actually think while RGIII puts in the hard work he still goes out and has fun playing the game of football. I think that helps his play at this point as much as anything. When a QB starts to think too much and starts trying to make plays is when they have more problems. To me it seem RGIII is having the time of his life while also performing on the field.

Monkeydad 10-16-2012 12:54 PM

Re: Kudos to RG III
 
Good read.

[url=http://www.sportsgrid.com/nfl/robert-griffin-touchdown-speed/]Robert Griffin's Speed On Vikings TD Run | SportsGrid[/url]

punch it in 10-16-2012 01:14 PM

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;953047]The mood swings of a redskins fan haha very true[/QUOTE]
Every fan base in the world is concerned when their star player gets injured. Every fanbase in the world is elated when their star player wins a game for them. The only thing i notice that is different about redskins fans is that their number one concern seems to be to say "haha i told you so".


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artmonkforhallofamein07 10-16-2012 01:33 PM

Re: Kudos to RG III
 
[quote=punch it in;953137][QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;953121]

Exactly. Matt Ryan isnt relegated to the third and longs all the time. Its like how everyone wants to say eli is a great come from behind - fourth quarter qb. Well eli and the gints put themselves in those come from behind positions in the first place. Lol. Also if i could have matt ryan (as a rookie) or rg3 i would take rg3 in a heartbeat. Matt ryan has two of the best wr's and a hell of a team around him.


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I said in another thread talking to Giantone that I would honestly take RG III over any qb in the league to build a team around. He is that good and will be even better in years 5-10 than the rest of the current qb's in the nfl.

punch it in 10-16-2012 01:36 PM

[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;953180][quote=punch it in;953137]

I said in another thread talking to Giantone that I would honestly take RG III over any qb in the league to build a team around. He is that good and will be even better in years 5-10 than the rest of the current qb's in the nfl.[/QUOTE]

Yup. Never thought last year with rex n beck or for that matter jc, brunell, ramsey, etc etc that i would say it. But i wouldnt trade rg3 for any other qb in the league. No way.
Edit: i mean i never thought i would say i think we have the best qb in football. I still have trouble wrapping my head around it. Lol.

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los panda 10-16-2012 03:24 PM

Re: Kudos to RG III
 
figured this may be the place for it since this is griff-inspired:

is griff the fastest player on the redskins? do they ever measure them like they measured darrell green in his 40s (get it?)? do they ever race like portis and landry?

Monkeydad 10-16-2012 03:28 PM

Re: Kudos to RG III
 
Armstrong WAS our fastest I think.

I'd like to see him and Banks race. I wouldn't bet against RGIII against ANYONE in a race.

los panda 10-16-2012 03:33 PM

Re: Kudos to RG III
 
i'm sorry if the term offends anyone, but i think saying someone has "getting away from the cops speed" is both funny and flattering.

i've got hide from the cops speed.

i would love to see a race w griff, banks, robinson, moss? anyone else who wants the fastest redskin title

Monkeydad 10-16-2012 03:37 PM

Re: Kudos to RG III
 
Forgot about Aldrick. Might as well let D-Hall in that race too.

skinsfaninok 10-16-2012 03:40 PM

If he stays healthy through his career he will win the redskins a super bowl


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