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[quote=Lotus;1000375]DHall seems like Jason Campbell. They are both so middle-of-the-road that they lend argument ammunition to both their fans and their haters alike.[/quote]

Calling Hall middle of the road is pretty generous. Only one other starting corner gave up more yards last year and he's been one of the worst rated corners the last few years according to PFF.

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[quote=Monkeydad;1000384]We all know his salary was a bad deal for us...[B]but his on-field performance is not as bad as many of you like to claim[/B].

He's a lot better than anyone else in our price range right now. If we can get him down to what we're able to pay right now, I'd be glad to have him back. I'd also like to see another CB like Winfield come in. That would give us the option to use Hall as a nickel CB or even Free Safety where his tendency to attack the ball might suit his skill-set better...less man-on-man coverage and he'll probably have more INTs than ever.

We need to draft some solid CBs and Safeties regardless of who we sign in FA.[/quote]
I know personally I'm not claiming anything more than what the stats say, he gave up a ton of passes, and a ton of yards after the catch. If he comes back ok, but he isn't a top 10 or even top 20 CB in this league at this point, and as long as he accepts the pay of a mediocre, end of career CB, then fine, sign him back. But nobody is jumping for him, if they were, we would be hearing it from his agent, or leaked sources.

He's just an average CB with great ball handling skills, who thinks he is a shutdown guy.

I think with him and FDavis, I just want to get the Vinny guys behind us, unless they make an effort to come back. So far, neither one seems to have. (from media perception of course)

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So with Davis basically saying he's outtie, who would be our 3rd TE or even 2nd string? Cooley was just a 1 year deal wasn't he? I feel like I'm forgetting someone.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1000397]So with Davis basically saying he's outtie, who would be our 3rd TE or even 2nd string? Cooley was just a 1 year deal wasn't he? I feel like I'm forgetting someone.[/quote]

When did Davis say that?

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Niles paul

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1000398]When did Davis say that?[/quote]

Well we're obviously in no rush to sign him and he doesn't seem in a rush to sign with us. It's looking like stalemate so far. I wasn't too fond of his, I'm gonna ball with whatever team wants a TE, blurb.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1000399]Niles paul[/quote]

No wonder I forgot. :doh:

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1000400]Well we're obviously in no rush to sign him and he doesn't seem in a rush to sign with us. It's looking like stalemate so far. I wasn't too fond of his, I'm gonna ball with whatever team wants a TE, blurb.[/quote]

Why would we be in a rush? Until this week, no one else has shown any serious interest in him. The Bills are serious. I imagine the Skins will see what the Bills offer and then decide if its worth matching. The last thing we can afford to do is overpay for a TE coming of a major injury who has tons of minor run-ins with the law and is one joint away from a year long suspension. The only thing Davis deserves is a 1 year "prove it" deal. If the Rosenhaus can convince the Bills to offer more than that, then theyre very very stupid.

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[quote=Mattyk;1000391]Calling Hall middle of the road is pretty generous. Only one other starting corner gave up more yards last year and he's been one of the worst rated corners the last few years according to PFF.[/quote]

Well that's fair enough Matty. But I would argue that, despite the huge yardage given up, DHall sometimes makes timely big plays that other CB's who regularly get beat do not make. These occasional plays, to me, are mitigating factors.

Put differently, DHall fans tend to point to his big plays. Detractors tend to point to yardage surrendered. IMO each side could recognize that the other has a point, decide to get along, and then we could talk about topics which are less futile than yet another DHall discussion.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1000402][B]Why would we be in a rush? [/B]Until this week, no one else has shown any serious interest in him. The Bills are serious. I imagine the Skins will see what the Bills offer and then decide if its worth matching. The last thing we can afford to do is overpay for a TE coming of a major injury who has tons of minor run-ins with the law and is one joint away from a year long suspension. The only thing Davis deserves is a 1 year "prove it" deal. If the Rosenhaus can convince the Bills to offer more than that, then theyre very very stupid.[/quote]

Outside of Paulsen we're looking thin at TE, unless they're looking to draft one. And no one tell me Paul is a serviceable TE. That man is just a warm body.

Okay, he's good at ST, but whatever.

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1000324]I've seen every Redskins game and player since 1960 and Hall is no safety.[/quote]
Hey I am not saying he would be a good saftey. But he was a very solid tackler. He made big time stops all year against the run. Tackling was his best talent.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;1000405]Hey I am not saying he would be a good saftey. But he was a very solid tackler. He made big time stops all year against the run. Tackling was his best talent.[/quote]

Sadly, DHall would be an upgrade at FS given how Madieu Williams played last season.

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didn't Hall have a go at FS last year and it was a fail? I swear for a couple plays here and there.

I'd look at K. Winslow as a backup if Davis isn't wanting to come back.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;1000402]Why would we be in a rush? Until this week, no one else has shown any serious interest in him. The Bills are serious. I imagine the Skins will see what the Bills offer and then decide if its worth matching. The last thing we can afford to do is overpay for a TE coming of a major injury who has tons of minor run-ins with the law and is one joint away from a year long suspension. The only thing Davis deserves is a 1 year "prove it" deal. [B]If the Rosenhaus can convince the Bills to offer more than that, then theyre very very stupid.[/B][/quote]

Well they did choose Maybin over Orakpo