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[quote=HailGreen28;1055240]I guess fans everywhere think now when there's an injury a team is just trying to stop the clock[/quote]

Seriously! Most fans have no idea what is going on. Amateur hour by the fans on that play.

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[B]@AlbertBreer

You get the increasing feeling, talking to people around the league, that the Browns job is seen as radioactive. Tough spot for them.[/B]



I'm still bewildered how the league allowed that criminal to stay the owner of the Browns. I suppose most of them got rich swindling others to begin with so it's a good ole boy system.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1055254][B]@AlbertBreer

You get the increasing feeling, talking to people around the league, that the Browns job is seen as radioactive. Tough spot for them.[/B]



I'm still bewildered how the league allowed that criminal to stay the owner of the Browns. I suppose most of them got rich swindling others to begin with so it's a good ole boy system.[/quote]

The Browns' dysfunction makes us look like the perfect team.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1055256]The Browns' dysfunction makes us look like the perfect team.[/quote]


This is even worse.


:laughing2




[B][SIZE="3"]@RapSheet

Other problems: Candidates have been calling Rob Chudzinski, who I’m told has been honest. Tough to lure candidates after one-and-done[/SIZE][/B]


Wow. Guess Chud gets the last laugh after all. No wonder McDaniels and others have said..."no thanks"

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000312267/article/browns-candidates-have-been-calling-rob-chudzinski]Browns candidates have called Rob Chudzinski - NFL.com[/url]

I feel for Cleveland fans

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Even I feel bad for the Browns and I'm a freaking Lions fan, lol.

I feel they're going for Johnny Manziel in the draft. It's either going to be a spectacularly brilliant move or blow up in their faces. I'm leaning towards the latter as it IS the Browns.

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The one and done issue is more of a problem than a coach contacting the coach who just got fired.

I feel like a lot of coaches do that due to the "fraternity" of coaches and probably just want information on the organization or what they did (so they can do the opposite). I guarantee some coaches called Mike to get his opinion on the Washington Redskins Organization. Most people don't have nice, unbiased things to say about an organization if they just got fired by them, so I am not sure how much stock candidates are putting into Chudzinski's opinion.

Now the one and done firing would be a bigger flag to me. And how that organization has been run the past decade or two.

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[quote=donofriose;1055266]The one and done issue is more of a problem than a coach contacting the coach who just got fired.

I feel like a lot of coaches do that due to the "fraternity" of coaches and probably just want information on the organization or what they did (so they can do the opposite). I guarantee some coaches called Mike to get his opinion on the Washington Redskins Organization. Most people don't have nice, unbiased things to say about an organization if they just got fired by them, so I am not sure how much stock candidates are putting into Chudzinski's opinion.

Now the one and done firing would be a bigger flag to me. And how that organization has been run the past decade or two.[/quote]

Yeah I agree, it's the one and done that is the problem. It was ridiculous to fire him after one year, especially since IMHO the Browns are a franchise QB away from being quite good.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/10283837/2013-nfl-playoffs-mike-mitchell-carolina-panthers-criticizes-officials-loss-san-francisco-49ers]2013 NFL playoffs -- Mike Mitchell of Carolina Panthers criticizes officials after loss to San Francisco 49ers - ESPN[/url]

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After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.

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[quote=irish;1055273]After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.[/quote]

really? I never really come away super impressed with those 2 as passers.

I usually come away more impressed by the defensive side of the ball. I wonder how good would RG3 with either top 5 defenses?

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[quote=irish;1055273]After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.[/quote]

Different circumstances bud. Cam has shown enough progress this season to suggest his development is getting there yes, but Carolina’s revival was more on the D looking formidable at times down the stretch. Same can apply to Kaep. Not that I'm disputing that Robert does need to show improvement going forward, but put a healthy #10 on either of those teams and there would be no discussion about the level he’s at. Keep the faith.

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[quote=irish;1055273]After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.[/quote]

So that must means Kirk Cousins shouldn't even be in the NFL at all.

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[quote=Starry Plough;1055287]Different circumstances bud. Cam has shown enough progress this season to suggest his development is getting there yes, but Carolina’s revival was more on the D looking formidable at times down the stretch. Same can apply to Kaep. Not that I'm disputing that Robert does need to show improvement going forward, but put a healthy #10 on either of those teams and there would be no discussion about the level he’s at. Keep the faith.[/quote]

Agree that Car was more about D than O. I think RG can run with Cam or Kaep (even though he's not nearly as big as they are) I dont think his passing is as accurate as Cam or Kaep. Personally I think if RG plays for either of those teams this year they dont make the playoffs.

[QUOTE=irish;1055273]After watching Newton and Kapernick its obvious that RG has a lot of developing to do at QB before he plays at their level.[/QUOTE]

Really? I think people are getting confused with these QBs due to winning. Both those guys are run first QBs