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[quote=Skinzman;1141205]A few years back, the Browns had a pretty good team that just didnt have a QB (trading up to get Weeden and Manzielaholic were desperation moves to solve that). Not so much anymore. RG3 is going to get killed behind that OL unless he learns to release as soon as his back foot hits the ground. Thats not what he is good at. He should go to someplace that has a strong OL or to a team that runs a system more suited for him (Buffalo has Chan Gailey who runs a spread type system).

As for Morris, im really surprised he went to Dallas (and surprised Dallas signed him). His strength is the stretch runs where he can use his vision and one step cut ability. He has power, but he is not what is considered a power back. He is not a hit the hole hard type of guy. Denver should have said no to the CJ Anderson offer sheet and pursued Morris. He would be an ideal fit for Kubiaks offense.[/quote]

When exactly did they have a pretty good team? lol

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/]Cleveland Browns Team Encyclopedia | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url]

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[QUOTE=MTK;1141238]When exactly did they have a pretty good team? lol

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/]Cleveland Browns Team Encyclopedia | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url][/QUOTE]
Yeah without looking I think the last time they made the playoffs was when they had Holcomb at qb.. believe they played pitt

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[quote=MTK;1141238]When exactly did they have a pretty good team? lol

[url=http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/cle/]Cleveland Browns Team Encyclopedia | Pro-Football-Reference.com[/url][/quote]

I did kind of say that wrong. Didnt mean that the team itself was good. I meant that they had some really good individual parts. Their OL was actually really good. DL was above average. Had a couple in the secondary that were real good although the unit itself wasnt great. Had the bongman as a receiver who was really good for a couple of years.

The main downfall was the QB position. They could have been a fringe playoff team with a good QB, possibly better. They couldnt get an average QB. They went for homeruns on QBs and whiffed every time. Weeden was a last ditch effort with some good players still there. Manziel was also but players were hitting FA and leaving as soon as they could at that point. Their drafts havent been good the last few years either.

Thats why I say a few years ago would have been different. I think the parts were much better then. Hue might be good for him, but he would be back on a below average team and hes not carrying an offense. I think the Browns will turn out bad for him unless they all of a sudden get much better outside of the QB position. Hes going to need that because if he goes there and starts, and another year 3 happens, hes either going to be dead or selling cars.

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Just heard on Grant and Danny that Robert is expected to sign with Cleveland today.

Bad move on his part IMO, he should have gone somewhere like KC where he could have sat under a good QB with a great QB coach and then been a star again after taking over. Now we will be in the top 1 or 2 of the draft bust lists forever.

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[quote=hutch17;1141256]Just heard on Grant and Danny that Robert is expected to sign with Cleveland today.

Bad move on his part IMO, he should have gone somewhere like KC where he could have sat under a good QB with a great QB coach and then been a star again after taking over. Now we will be in the top 1 or 2 of the draft bust lists forever.[/quote]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/03/24/report-browns-expected-to-reach-deal-with-rg3-today/]Report: Browns expected to reach deal with RG3 today | ProFootballTalk[/url]

yup...Schefty reporting it as well. Oh well.

I think this is probably worst case for RG3.

Broncos and Jets both in desperate need of a QB and they were never serious about RG3. To me, that tells me a lot. Both playoff caliber teams said not even a chance.

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Looks like Cleveland is the only chance where he'll be able to compete for a starting job, even if they take a qb in the draft. I'm sure he would've gotten other offers elsewhere to be a backup, but I'm not sure his ego would've allowed that.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1141239]Yeah without looking I think the last time they made the playoffs was when they had Holcomb at qb.. believe they played pitt[/quote]
cheese and crackers! they have been to the playoffs twice since 1990. waht a depressing franchise.

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Good for RGIII, I hope he succeeds

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000647310/article/browns-expected-to-sign-rg3]Robert Griffin III signs with Browns - NFL.com[/url]

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[quote=hutch17;1141256]Just heard on Grant and Danny that Robert is expected to sign with Cleveland today.

Bad move on his part IMO, he should have gone somewhere like KC where he could have sat under a good QB with a great QB coach and then been a star again after taking over. Now we will be in the top 1 or 2 of the draft bust lists forever.[/quote]

Of course that assumes that KC wanted him. I never heard anything of the sort.

That's the most damning thing here. He has been a free agent for two+ weeks, the only visits he took were the Jets and the Browns.

The Rams have Foles as their best option and they didn't bring Robert in. Elway currently has Sanchez as his best option, and he didn't bring Robert in. The Jets currently have Geno Smith, and aren't willing to go higher than $8M to Fitzpatrick. They kicked the tires on Griffin but didn't bend over backwards to sign him. Houston really needed a QB, and rather than give RG3 a look they figured they'd throw $18M per season at Osweiler who has only played what, 8 games in the NFL?

Teams that really needed a QB aren't interested in him. And Shefter is reporting that Cleveland is still likely to draft a QB with #2 overall.

Most of us understand because we're a fairly knowledgeable board, but Robert really has fallen that far. 2012 is not coming back.

The Browns come to Fed Ex in 2016. I wonder if Griffin even plays. You'd have to say chances are it will be Goff, Wentz, or McCown.

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I was very surprised how little attention RG3 got during the free agent period. Thought for sure the Rams, KC, maybe the Bills, Dallas, Texans or San Fran would show more interest.

Really surprised nobody didn't make more of an effort.

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[B]@RapSheet

The #Browns signed RGIII to a 2-year deal worth $15M, source said. He gets 6.75M guaranteed. Large investment.[/B]



Not sure I would have given him that kind of money. Wish him the best and I think it's the best scenario he could go to. (minus the fact it's the Browns)

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1141260]Good for RGIII, I hope he succeeds

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000647310/article/browns-expected-to-sign-rg3]Robert Griffin III signs with Browns - NFL.com[/url][/quote]

Same here.

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If I were his agent I would have pointed to Brock's contract then pointed to 2012 and say, "Let's be real here."

Honestly, I think he's done, but with the contracts given out this year, I'm not shocked.

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[quote=Schneed10;1141261]Of course that assumes that KC wanted him. I never heard anything of the sort.

That's the most damning thing here. He has been a free agent for two+ weeks, the only visits he took were the Jets and the Browns.

The Rams have Foles as their best option and they didn't bring Robert in. Elway currently has Sanchez as his best option, and he didn't bring Robert in. The Jets currently have Geno Smith, and aren't willing to go higher than $8M to Fitzpatrick. They kicked the tires on Griffin but didn't bend over backwards to sign him. Houston really needed a QB, and rather than give RG3 a look they figured they'd throw $18M per season at Osweiler who has only played what, 8 games in the NFL?

Teams that really needed a QB aren't interested in him. And Shefter is reporting that Cleveland is still likely to draft a QB with #2 overall.

Most of us understand because we're a fairly knowledgeable board, but Robert really has fallen that far. 2012 is not coming back.

The Browns come to Fed Ex in 2016. I wonder if Griffin even plays. You'd have to say chances are it will be Goff, Wentz, or McCown.[/quote]

I agree with everything you just posted! I would say there's less than a 50/50 chance Griffin is playing when the Browns face the 'skins.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1141263][B]@RapSheet

The #Browns signed RGIII to a 2-year deal worth $15M, source said. He gets 6.75M guaranteed. Large investment.[/B]



Not sure I would have given him that kind of money. Wish him the best and I think it's the best scenario he could go to. (minus the fact it's the Browns)[/quote]

whoa...contract also has 7 million more in incentives...possible 2 year at 22 million. Why Cleveland, why?