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[quote=SmootSmack;593114]I must say, unless you have access to certain non-tv camera angles that only some people have then that's a big assumption to make about a certain receiver[/quote]Well, the assumption I'm making is what the route was, knowing only the release off the LOS and the end point of the route. But it's more about the progression and Campbell than what I do/do not know about what coverage the Rams where in.

Let me ask this back at you: are you suggesting that Campbell was going to pull off of said receiver regardless of whether or not he was open? Because, if so, that would be a much more significant development than what actually occurred.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;592995]Well I was making an observation, and both settled for a lot of FG's (NYG missed a 29 yarder).

Everyone wants to b and moan, fine go ahead. But we got a W, 15 other teams, including Dallas and Philly didn't. And we beat a team we lost to last year. I'm not happy, but I'm not crying at my desk either. We put up 364 yds, we moved up and down the field. We stopped them, causing a turnover on a critical drive.

The RedZone is the Redzone because its hard, and that was my point. but please go ahead and piss the win away. atleast at the end of the year we won't be looking back and saying we shoulda won against the Rams.[/quote]

Tell 'em C. Give 'em hell man!

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[quote=GTripp0012;593117]Well, the assumption I'm making is what the route was, knowing only the release off the LOS and the end point of the route. But it's more about the progression and Campbell than what I do/do not know about what coverage the Rams where in.

Let me ask this back at you: are you suggesting that Campbell was going to pull off of said receiver regardless of whether or not he was open? Because, if so, that would be a much more significant development than what actually occurred.[/quote]

Honestly not sure we can say either way

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[quote=44Deezel;592266]Did JC even get sacked once today? I thought the O line gave him plenty of time to throw, although I watched most of the game in fast forward mode, since I was out during the first quarter.[/quote]

It's easier to prop JC up by saying other teams olines are so much better by saying "oh insert JC here and he is next Brady".

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[quote=SmootSmack;593130]Honestly not sure we can say either way[/quote]Well, then we're left with a either this or that situation. The only thing we know for sure is that it's just not working.

I'll be careful not to jump to a conclusion in the write up.

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[quote=GTripp0012;593134]Well, then we're left with a either this or that situation. The only thing we know for sure is that it's just not working.

I'll be careful not to jump to a conclusion in the write up.[/quote]

If I had time to watch the other angles, which I don't today, I might be able to give you another answer.

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[quote=SmootSmack;593136]If I had time to watch the other angles, which I don't today, I might be able to give you another answer.[/quote]The fact that you even considered the non-trust factor suggests that we're on the same page here. Let me know if you get a look at the coaches' tape.

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how bout them cowboys , ha ha ha ha ha , thank you romo . Jessica says you always choke at night !!!!

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d812cf992&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Shoulder injury could cause Sims to miss 'fairly significant' time[/url]

One of the Lions better players LB Ernie Sims is out with a shoulder injury.

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[quote=GTripp0012;593091]Anyway, here's a hint. On consecutive plays, the Redskins threw quick passes designed to go to their young receivers. Standard "50 game" passes, a WCO staple. On the first play, the receiver badly rounded off his route, and Campbell gave up on him about 3 seconds into the play, came over the middle and hit Sellers for 12 yards and a first down. On the very next play, the Redskins changed their receiver personnel and ran an incredibly similar passing play and this time Campbell stayed with his No. 1 target drilling him in tight coverage.[/quote]It appeared to me that the two plays in question were 3 step drops. On the first play it looks like DT was running a 5yd Dig. Looked like he squared it off nicely. JC made the read at the end of his drop (under 2 sec) and went to Sellers. I think why he checked off was he may have pre-read Man and the Rams dropped to Zone. I think he could've hit DT, but he may have been concerned about the S making a break on the ball.

On the second play Kelly comes under a clearout route by by ARE, Rams look like a Cover 3 Zone here and Kelly is wide open (throw was behind tho).

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;593238]It appeared to me that the two plays in question were 3 step drops. On the first play it looks like DT was running a 5yd Dig. Looked like he squared it off nicely. JC made the read at the end of his drop (under 2 sec) and went to Sellers. I think why he checked off was he may have pre-read Man and the Rams dropped to Zone. I think he could've hit DT, but he may have been concerned about the S making a break on the ball.

On the second play Kelly comes under a clearout route by by ARE, Rams look like a Cover 3 Zone here and Kelly is wide open (throw was behind tho).[/quote]Yeah. It looked like the throw to Kelly was made into tighter space than the throw to Thomas would have been. I also think DT rounded the route off, or did something else that Campbell wasn't expecting and gave up on him.

But as SS and I were suggesting earlier, the pre-snap read might not have been the whole story there.

Good points.

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Man, the Phins sure can run the ball. They're killing it with the wildcat.

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[quote=wilsowilso;593155][url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d812cf992&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true]Shoulder injury could cause Sims to miss 'fairly significant' time[/url]

One of the Lions better players LB Ernie Sims is out with a shoulder injury.[/quote]

That's pretty big. Outside of Sims, Calvin Johnson, and the undeveloped Stafford, talent is pretty thin in Detroit. Their D needs Sims.

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This MNF game is pretty intense. I'm wondering why Miami isn't throwing to their TE's more....

he he he.

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Now thats a real QB.