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GTripp0012 03-10-2012 01:25 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;894647]Guys with RGIII's experience, tools, and intangibles don't usually bust, nor come around often so I think it's safe to say that we'll end up with a good if not great one on our hands. Either way our running game is going to be improved and we will cut down on turnovers with this trade. Thats an improvement right there. [/quote]Andrew Luck aside, I haven't given a player this high a grade since either Matt Leinart or Brady Quinn.

Given proper context, I have no idea what I'm trying to say here. Don't draft a top QB with an embattled coach, maybe? No, that's probably not it.

RG3 does seem to be starting with a lot more talent here than Luck has in Indy though. Maybe more talent than Tannehill too, if Tannehill gets stuck in Cleveland or Seattle.

Miami's in the catbird seat now though. They pretty much get us out of the way, don't have to worry all that much about the Browns, and can pick Tannehill/Osweiler/Foles/Weeden or whoever at no. 9 if they wish.

skinsfan69 03-10-2012 01:25 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
3 high draft picks for one guy? What an overpay! When do we ever get on the right side of trades? Never. I like RG3 a lot but not at this price. This team simply isn't in a position to throw away high draft picks.

WaldSkins 03-10-2012 01:26 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;894648]Ovechkin, Strasburgh, Wall, and now RGIII.[/quote]

Who is strasburgh?

Dirtbag59 03-10-2012 01:27 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=skinsfan69;894652]3 high draft picks for one guy? What an overpay! When do we ever get on the right side of trades? Never. I like RG3 a lot but not at this price. This team simply isn't in a position to throw away high draft picks.[/quote]

We got on the right side of a trade in 2008. The Falcons gave us two 2nd round picks and we ended up with three pass catchers. Look supporting parts are great but without a QB they're just luxuries. Look at any successful team, the QB is the true foundation. Other parts can easily be replaced but almost every move is made around the QB, at least when you have a good one.

Ruhskins 03-10-2012 01:28 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;894648]Ovechkin, Strasburgh, Wall, and now RGIII.[/quote]

Jan Vasely's girlfriend and RG3's girlfriend! LOL.

Dirtbag59 03-10-2012 01:28 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=WaldSkins;894653]Who is strasburgh?[/quote]

You know, Steven.

GTripp0012 03-10-2012 01:29 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;894654]We got on the right side of a trade in 2008. The Falcons gave us two 2nd round picks and we ended up with three pass catchers. Look supporting parts are great but without a QB they're just luxuries. Look at any successful team, the QB is the true foundation. Other parts can easily be replaced but almost every move is made around the QB, at least when you have a good one.[/quote]Do Thomas and Kelly even count as supporting parts? What were they supporting exactly, other than Mike Shanahan's eventual ascension to head coach here.

Dirtbag59 03-10-2012 01:29 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Ruhskins;894655]Jan Vasely's girlfriend and RG3's girlfriend! LOL.[/quote]

Unfortunately it would appear that some of our esteemed members want to judge our players on weather or not they have a model quality girlfriends.

sandtrapjack 03-10-2012 01:30 AM

Wow, even Mike Lynn is saying “They gave up WHAT!?!?!?"

Dirtbag59 03-10-2012 01:30 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=GTripp0012;894657]Do Thomas and Kelly even count as supporting parts? What were they supporting exactly, other than Mike Shanahan's eventual ascension to head coach here.[/quote]

Well Devin Thomas was a gift for the local ladies and Malcolm Kelly was a kickback to the local doctors.

skinsfan69 03-10-2012 01:31 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;894654]We got on the right side of a trade in 2008. The Falcons gave us two 2nd round picks and we ended up with three pass catchers. Look supporting parts are great but without a QB they're just luxuries. Look at any successful team, the QB is the true foundation. Other parts can easily be replaced but almost every move is made around the QB, at least when you have a good one.[/quote]

Still don't like this move. Not at all. I would've kept the picks and drafted someone. RG3 has a ton of upside but that doesn't always translate to the pro game.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-10-2012 01:39 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
Realization of life: People are just determined to be unhappy.

SirClintonPortis 03-10-2012 01:42 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
Well, since our scouting staff is top notch; we can just sit back and relaaaaaaaaaaaax.

A toast to our future success. :food-smil

lol, 10 years from now, I'll probably regret this post(5733). haha.

SirClintonPortis 03-10-2012 01:47 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
[quote=Dirtbag59;894654]We got on the right side of a trade in 2008. The Falcons gave us two 2nd round picks and we ended up with three pass catchers. Look supporting parts are great but without a QB they're just luxuries. Look at any successful team, the QB is the true foundation. Other parts can easily be replaced but almost every move is made around the QB, at least when you have a good one.[/quote]

Actually that strategy can work to an extent, but it takes a lot of suffering, and its still not enough. You have to have a top 11 pick for at least 7 years straight. You'll have to go through many coaches, and even those fired coaches might have helped out the team in the future by straightening out a "problem child" player, and you hit on "THE ONE" coach and then with all that top 11 talent(although the QB plays well below his draft position), go to the NFC Championship game and then have the returner screw it up.

But it might not have mattered anyway if Tom Brady had his way.

EARTHQUAKE2689 03-10-2012 01:47 AM

Re: Redskins agree to trade for No.2 overall pick in 2012 Draft
 
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