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DYoungJelly 05-26-2017 07:33 PM

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 
[quote=SolidSnake84;1170683]This is a great post, i 100% agree. This is the message i was trying to get across in the other Cousins thread. The Redskins might want to play "moneyball" at QB, if they get a good system in place. Draft a guy, you know you have him cheap for a few years, when he asks for starting QB money, send him packing.[/quote]

QB is probably the only position you can't play moneyball with. There are fewer serviceable QBs than there are teams.

If the team is pursuing a moneyball type strategy at the QB position, it could hurt the team for years. Much like the RG3 trade and the cap penalty.

Not my quote but competence rather than excellence gets paid at QB.

MTK 05-27-2017 06:00 AM

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 
Money ball at QB is the worst idea ever

mooby 05-27-2017 11:12 AM

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 
[quote=MTK;1170691]Money ball at QB is the worst idea ever[/quote]

Nah, let's let KC walk, sign Brian Hoyer for 5 mil a year and let our guru's work their magic on him. Problem solved.

Giantone 05-27-2017 02:41 PM

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 
[quote=MTK;1170691]Money ball at QB is the worst idea ever[/quote]


Isn't that what the Ravens did with Trent Dilfer?If I remember correctly they said he didn't have to win games just manage them,the defense did the rest.

MTK 05-27-2017 02:53 PM

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 
[QUOTE=Giantone;1170711]Isn't that what the Ravens did with Trent Dilfer?If I remember correctly they said he didn't have to win games just manage them,the defense did the rest.[/QUOTE]



A QB like Dilfer winning it all is the exception to the rule

mredskins 06-12-2017 10:28 PM

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 
Redskins to announce new front office structure Tuesday
[url]https://www.thescore.com/news/1317573[/url]
(via [url]http://thesco.re/theScore_app[/url] )
The last sentence in the above article is going some folks lose their shit. TRIGGERED!

KI Skins Fan 06-13-2017 07:32 AM

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 
[quote=mredskins;1170898]Redskins to announce new front office structure Tuesday
[url]https://www.thescore.com/news/1317573[/url]
(via [url]http://thesco.re/theScore_app[/url] )
The last sentence in the above article is going some folks lose their shit. TRIGGERED![/quote]

Regarding the last sentence, I doubt that anybody on this site will be surprised.

skinsfan69 06-13-2017 08:09 AM

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 
The rumor is Eric S. is going to be named the GM. When I was out at the OTA practice last week a few of the employees at 980 had mentioned this but it was not confirmed.

mooby 06-13-2017 10:50 AM

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 
[url=http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19623620/washington-redskins-promote-doug-williams-eric-schaffer]Washington Redskins promote Doug Williams, Eric Schaffer[/url]

Does this really change anything? I feel like it confirms what we already know. Allen runs the FO ship with input from Gruden on the personnel side.

Alvin Walton 06-13-2017 11:16 AM

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 
Some shuffling and renaming....not much to get excited about.
But if it creates stability, I'm all for it.
Lets win a Championship!

JoeRedskin 06-13-2017 11:21 AM

Re: Redskins fire GM Scot McCloughan
 
[QUOTE=mooby;1170902]Does this really change anything? I feel like it confirms what we already know. Allen runs the FO ship with input from Gruden on the personnel side.[/QUOTE]

I agree. Allen is running the show and will for the foreseeable future. If it weren't for his "Hey, you worked at T.Bay with me so you must be good" policy, I wouldn't mind too much.

I recognize that the NFL is very much a "Who you know" game, but BA seems to take that to a whole other level. The McCloughan experiment probably strengthened his "I'm not hiring outside my circle" mentality.

While not a horrific GM/Head of Operations/Grand Poobah, I just feel Allen lacks that moxie to take the Skins to the next level. Under him, we have had good cap management (yes, largely in part to Schaeffer), restraint - but flexibility - in the UFA market, and each draft he has been a part of has had some good hits. I just get the feeling, however, that there is no self-examination or real long term plan outside of good fiscal roster management. It's more of a "Hey, this looks good. Let's try this."

Someone once described Allen as a person who started out his career on third base but acts like he hit a triple to get there. I have a feeling that's a pretty accurate assessment.


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