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diehardskin2982 01-22-2006 09:27 PM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
i think the #2 will be cooley as the H-back position. The second wr just has to catch and get yards after the catch on a regular basis. I don't care who it is.

GoSkins! 01-22-2006 09:53 PM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
Who will be throwing the ball does not matter.

Our expectations for a number 2 should be that he threaten a defense enough that they cannot exclusively try to shut down Moss. We have a deep threat in Moss, and a mid threat with Cooley. If our 2 can just do enough to get respect from the opposing defense, it will make the offense better.

Maybe asking "Who will be calling/designing the plays?" would make more of a difference.

SUNRA 01-22-2006 10:03 PM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
Our 2# receiver should contribute more yards and TD's than Cooley which is asking a lot, but that's why he gets paid the big buck. If the Steelers have to lose the Superbowl and release Antwaan Randle-El, I'm pulling for the Seahawks. He would fit perfectly in our offense with a former AFC coordinator.

That Guy 01-23-2006 08:51 AM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
KR or Kevin Curtis would be the top choicess for me for price/performance still... 700yards would be nice. 400-500 is really pretty subpar for a #2.

cpayne5 01-23-2006 09:12 AM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
[QUOTE=offiss]Why? The question in itself is assinine.[/QUOTE]
Then why post at all?

Kinda ironic that you, of all people, (mis)spelled asinine w/ 2 S's.

offiss 01-23-2006 09:18 AM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
[QUOTE=cpayne5]Then why post at all?

Kinda ironic that you, of all people, (mis)spelled asinine w/ 2 S's.[/QUOTE]



Why? Because it's a stupid question, that's why I didn't answer it to begin with. It's dealing with ridculous hypotheticals. Good luck with it though.

MTK 01-23-2006 09:28 AM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
Isn't alot of what we talk about dealing with hypotheticals??

I don't see where this thread is any different than any other ones we've got going on the forum.

FRPLG 01-23-2006 09:39 AM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
A solid 2 will catch 50+ balls and have about 700-800 yards. I think 6 TDs would be about right too. More importantly than his numbers would be his skill level in general. It needs to be someone who commands a safety on a regular basis to cover adequately. If he cannot create space for himself in one on one coverage then don't even bother playing him. Cooley is a great option but he doesn't require safety help consistently. He runs shorter routes out of the back field generally and is covered by an LB. That leaves one on one at the WR2 and Moss doubled or even tripled with two safeties(this past year). This is unacceptable. The mighty Steve Smith was bottled up exactly the same way against Seattle because Carolina had no viable options anywhere else. We need someone who scares defenses out of constant doubles and triples on Moss. We need someone who can make them pick a poison. I think Patten can do it but I still would like to get another guy just so when there is any injury the is still 2 viable options at the WR position.

onlydarksets 01-23-2006 09:52 AM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
I don't care how many yards or TDs he has - I care about number of catches, [b]location of catches[/b], and number of first downs. We have the offensive threats to score - Moss, Portis, Cooley, Sellers. What we need is a guy who can run crisp routes to spread the defense to open up other players, go across the middle, and move the chains to extend drives.

offiss 01-23-2006 09:58 AM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Isn't alot of what we talk about dealing with hypotheticals??

I don't see where this thread is any different than any other ones we've got going on the forum.[/QUOTE]


Really? Asking a question about the production of a WR we don't even have yet, who is going to be catching passes from who we are not sure yet, with a brand new O-coordiantor who is not familar with our personel, let alone personel we don't even have yet, is not reaching just a tad?

MTK 01-23-2006 09:59 AM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
[QUOTE=offiss]Really? Asking a question about the production of a WR we don't even have yet, who is going to be catching passes from who we are not sure yet, with a brand new O-coordiantor who is not familar with our personel, let alone personel we don't even have yet, is not reaching just a tad?[/QUOTE]

C'mon man we talk about these kind of scenarios all the time.

Lighten up. It's the offseason.

FRPLG 01-23-2006 10:02 AM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
[QUOTE=offiss]Really? Asking a question about the production of a WR we don't even have yet, who is going to be catching passes from who we are not sure yet, with a brand new O-coordiantor who is not familar with our personel, let alone personel we don't even have yet, is not reaching just a tad?[/QUOTE]
This is a Redskins discussion site and it is the off season. Just about everything we discuss is going to be hypothetical and conjecture. Should we just shut down the site during the off season since there is nothing concrete to talk about? Hell just about everything we talk about during the season is conjecture. In the words of Riggo "Chillout offiss baby!"

offiss 01-23-2006 10:07 AM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
Alright already. :towel:

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 01-23-2006 11:28 AM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
For me, it all depends on what kind of yardage the other guys are getting (on the ground and in the air). If Santana and Portis have 1,400 yard seasons, I'd expect the #2 not to have more than 600 yards. If Santana and Portis' number drop, I'd expect the #2's numbers to jump.

skinsfanthru&thru 01-23-2006 11:31 AM

Re: Expectations for a #2 guy
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Isn't alot of what we talk about dealing with hypotheticals??

I don't see where this thread is any different than any other ones we've got going on the forum.[/QUOTE]

some people seem to be able to easily discuss hypotheticals when Ramsey is involved :biggthump , so why not possible future players right Matty? :food-smil


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