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diehardskin2982 03-04-2006 01:39 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
I feel the CBA will be extented

RiggoRules 03-04-2006 02:18 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
The cap space is more valuable than the low round pick we might be able to get for him. He'll be released sometime before 6PM Sunday.

Ricky Williams must be on this board. That's the only explanation for someone voting that Ramsey will command a first or second round pick.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-04-2006 02:24 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
Tagliabue retires. Ramsey is new commish.

Schneed10 03-04-2006 02:28 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
5th or 6th rounder IMO. We'll end up just taking what we can get.

That Guy 03-04-2006 02:28 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
[QUOTE=Huddle]It's Miami for a fourth round pick.

Miami, the Jets and Oakland have shown interest but Miami is the only team that interests Ramsey enough to sign an extension. The extension makes him worth more.

Miami will cool on Drew Brees. Too much money, too much risk.

Gibbs might have to hold out, though. Miami won't give up a pick as long as they think there's a chance that Joe will release Patrick.[/QUOTE]

if they call the bluff and its a dead cba, we'll have to ditch a lot of roster filler just to prove ramsey's not leaving without getting value... then hope no one eats our filler until ramsey gets us a pick and we can get them resigned.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-04-2006 02:38 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
Unfortunately, I don't think we'll get more for him right now than a 5th, 6th, or 7th. There are too many free agent QBs and, save Miami, the teams that need QBs are perfectly positioned to get one in the draft.

Huddle 03-04-2006 03:17 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]if they call the bluff and its a dead cba, we'll have to ditch a lot of roster filler just to prove ramsey's not leaving without getting value... then hope no one eats our filler until ramsey gets us a pick and we can get them resigned.[/QUOTE]

If the scenario you describe happens, there's going to be a lot of filler out there...some of it better than ours. How much filler does 1.7 mil buy anyway? We still need a number three QB.

Incidentally, this is the burning question now:

Now that Brunell has restructured, how much can we save off the cap if we cut him?

RiggoRules 03-04-2006 03:33 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
[QUOTE=Huddle]
Incidentally, this is the burning question now:

Now that Brunell has restructured, how much can we save off the cap if we cut him?[/QUOTE]

Prior to the restructure, cutting Brunnel would have resulted in about 5.5 mil in dead money. With the restructure, I can't see any way it could do anything other than make it worse. Also, if there is no CBA, post June cuts go on the 2K6 cap, not 2K7.

MTK 03-04-2006 04:18 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
With no CBA I think there's a good chance we keep him.

That Guy 03-04-2006 04:26 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
riggo, it was a joke ;)

1.7mill buys just over 7 min contract rookies or just about 4 6+ year vet min contracts.

it'd be worth it to keep him to prove we won't cut him without a pick (a high 4th this year could still get you a good player, or be traded with our 5th + 6th or our 3rd to move up in a round).

i doubt highly we keep ramsey into the season if it can be avoided though. 1.7mill is a lot of cap savings considering the current situation.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-04-2006 04:26 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]With no CBA I think there's a good chance we keep him.[/QUOTE]

Really Matty? The way I see it, if the CBA isn't extended and the 2006 cap is left at $94.5 million, we'll likely be forced to dump him. If an extension to the CBA is reached, I could see us holding onto him for a little while longer to get fair value for him.

I think Ramsey's value is hurt by the lack of a CBA because teams figure that we will have to get rid of him. If the CBA extension is reached, I think his value will increase and we'll see more interest and better compensation.

MTK 03-04-2006 04:29 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
With no CBA it will all depend on how much the restructures helped and how much we need his cap space.

RiggoRules 03-04-2006 04:30 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]riggo, it was a joke ;)
[QUOTE]

I've had three different people say words to that effect to me seriously since Thursday.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-04-2006 04:30 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
[QUOTE=Mattyk72]With no CBA it will all depend on how much the restructures helped and how much we need his cap space.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, it's frustrating that we don't know how much those restructured deals saved us.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-04-2006 04:31 PM

Re: What Will Happen to Ramsey?
 
[QUOTE=RiggoRules]
I've had three different people say words to that effect to me seriously since Thursday.[/QUOTE]

No worries. I think you would've had to have been around the site for the last few days to realize that it was an inside joke.


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