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BleedBurgundy 05-10-2004 05:48 AM

Does anyone really blame the Giants for starting Eli right away? Everyone saw the results of Peyton. A horrible first year, but high performance and great improvement in subsequent years. The G-Men are gonna be a real pain in the ass in 2-3 years.

skinsfanthru&thru 05-10-2004 01:31 PM

[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy]Does anyone really blame the Giants for starting Eli right away? Everyone saw the results of Peyton. A horrible first year, but high performance and great improvement in subsequent years. The G-Men are gonna be a real pain in the ass in 2-3 years.[/QUOTE]

of course peyton also had an offense tailored to his skills with harrison, pollard, and james. i don't see eli having anywhere near the same weapons talent wise.

BleedBurgundy 05-11-2004 05:36 AM

[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]of course peyton also had an offense tailored to his skills with harrison, pollard, and james. i don't see eli having anywhere near the same weapons talent wise.[/QUOTE]

I see your point. But I intended that Eli will benefit from the experience of starting and making mistakes, much as Peyton did. I do not believe the Giants will win very many games this year because of Eli being a rookie and the reasons you mentioned. Again, you are correct that with their current talent level, they do not possess the potential to be as explosive as the Colts, but I do believe that Eli will be in the same league as his older brother and once he has a year or two under his belt, we won't exactly be looking forward to facing him twice a year...

MTK 05-11-2004 08:40 AM

It's really too bad that in today's NFL a rookie QB has to play so soon. In some cases it really ruins a guy's career. Back in the day rookie QB's hardly ever saw the field before their 3rd or 4th years. The last guy that I can remember being brought along slowly was McNair. He only started a handful of games his first two seasons and it wasn't until year 3 he became the full-time starter.

skinsfanthru&thru 05-11-2004 10:19 AM

[QUOTE=BleedBurgundy]I see your point. But I intended that Eli will benefit from the experience of starting and making mistakes, much as Peyton did. I do not believe the Giants will win very many games this year because of Eli being a rookie and the reasons you mentioned. Again, you are correct that with their current talent level, they do not possess the potential to be as explosive as the Colts, but I do believe that Eli will be in the same league as his older brother and once he has a year or two under his belt, we won't exactly be looking forward to facing him twice a year...[/QUOTE]

this is either going to help him become a better qb like you said or make him fail miserably(sp?). unfortunately for eli, he wound up in a place where they aren't that supportive when u fail, but we'll find out for sure in a few years whether the hype was deserved or not.


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