Re: Ladell Betts in Saunders' offense
 

[QUOTE]Yehh u guessed right ur the only one..[/QUOTE]

That's so true because Betts, even though he doesn't see much action, is a solid backup. He had a few good runs when they would take out CP and the end of a game. And even if there is not much to flashy or good to say about him there is no reason to bash or doubt him. Solid backup.

Re: Ladell Betts in Saunders' offense
 

[CODE]Stats:
Ladell Rock
Carries: 89 27
Yards: 336 199
Yards Per Carry: 3.8 7.4
TD's: 1 2
FUMBLES: 3 1
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Rock had a long touchdown against the rams so that bumps up his per carry average.

But ladell has 3 fumbles and a 3.8 ave...
And dont say he is the short yardage back, he isnt. he splits time with portis. Ladell comes in for a series at a time, not situational.

I'm not saying rock is the answer, but I just dont see ladell being able to carry the load in this league.

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Side-by-side comparison of Rock's numbers and Ladell's numbers is terribly misleading. Rock got most of those 27 carries against a Rams run defense that was absolutely putrid. In other words, he was basically carrying the ball in garbage time. Betts actually spelled Portis in situations that mattered.

Secondly, if Ladell Betts is your starting RB I think you're kind of in trouble. I don't think he's a savior, if he's starting for your team then you don't have the greatest RB situation. But he definitely doesn't suck, that doesn't make any sense. He attacks holes with more authority than Rock and he gets better yardage after initial contact. He has also proven that he can grind out a 100 yard game while carrying 20+ times. He's reliable and consistent, if you need 4 yards, he's going to get you 4 yards. Just don't expect him to break any 50 yard TD runs, or else you're asking too much of your backup RB.

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[url]http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302176/gamelogs/2005[/url]

I know it sounds like i'm trying to bash the guy, I have not seen one thing that says he can carry the ball as the primary runner.

Check out his stats during "The Run to the Playoff". the only game he averaged 4 yards per carry was the philly game and that was because he had more than half his yards on one play. He runs too high, he gets hit too hard and he fumbles too often.

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[quote=jamf][URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302176/gamelogs/2005"]http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302176/gamelogs/2005[/URL]

I know it sounds like i'm trying to bash the guy, I have not seen one thing that says he can carry the ball as the primary runner.

Check out his stats during "The Run to the Playoff". the only game he averaged 4 yards per carry was the philly game and that was because he had more than half his yards on one play. He runs too high, he gets hit too hard and he fumbles too often.[/quote]

If you're going to go on stats alone, be fair & look at some of the games he started before Portis was signed - 03 season. Not to mention the last game of 04 against Minn. he put up 100+. The guy runs tough & I disagree that he runs too high. He's gotten a few first downs for us on 3rd & 3 situations. My concerns w/him are his blocking & his injuries. I don't think he's that fumble prone though he's coughed it up a few times. When he carried the ball a lot in 03 I don't think he fumbled much. Bottom line to me he's a good back up, could start on a few teams.

Re: Ladell Betts in Saunders' offense
 

[quote=jamf][URL="http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302176/gamelogs/2005"]http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302176/gamelogs/2005[/URL]

I know it sounds like i'm trying to bash the guy, I have not seen one thing that says he can carry the ball as the primary runner.

Check out his stats during "The Run to the Playoff". the only game he averaged 4 yards per carry was the philly game and that was because he had more than half his yards on one play. He runs too high, he gets hit too hard and he fumbles too often.[/quote]

First, why would we need him to be the primary runner? You are aware that we have a player named Clinton Portis, right? He wears #26, dresses up in funny costumes, and runs like the dickens.

Betts could start for a team if they had a crappy RB situation. He's not a #1 back, he's a great #2.

I don't know where you get this thing that he runs too high? That's flat out wrong. You never see him get knocked on his back (which is the result of getting hit by a linebacker when you're running too high). He always plows forward, keeps his pads low, and runs downhill. He's a straigh-line runner, takes it right at the defense, lowers his head, and just hits whoever is in his way. There are no shifty moves, no breakaway speed, but there's just enough power and just enough confidence to hit the hole with authority to provide reliable and consistent running. He's unspectacular, but effective.

Again, I don't know why we're worried about Ladell Betts. You know exactly what you're going to get from him. About 4 yards a carry, just good enough to keep defenses honest when Portis is getting a breather. If we have concerns about anyone in the Saunders offense, I don't think we need to worry about the RBs. They're the least of the concerns, we should be worried about how the QBs will adapt to the new system and to the new WRs. And we should hope the new WRs don't take too long to pick everything up.

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First of all, you do not say a Redskin sucks. That being said, so far I have not seen any reply yet that compliments Betts special teams assignments. Oh yeah, he can hit too, did you forget that? I think Betts runs his heart out and I love to have him on the Skins. He's a Redskin. And oh by the way there are 4 downs to get 10 yards to equal a 1st down. So if you RB gets you 4 yards on average, times 3 downs, ummmm hmmm that's 12 yards. First down! Remember John Riggins? That guy who wore 44?

Hail!

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[quote=PhxRedSkin]First of all, you do not say a Redskin sucks.[/quote]

what if its true?

should we be praising the great play of taylor jacobs, cory raymer, and antonio brown? cause i sure won't anytime soon.

Re: Ladell Betts in Saunders' offense
 

I think Betts' will rarely be used in the offense giving him time on punt coverage I hope to see one of our other backs step up . Who's are willie parker if injury happens?

Re: Ladell Betts in Saunders' offense
 

[quote=MightyJoeGibbs]I think Betts' will rarely be used in the offense giving him time on punt coverage I hope to see one of our other backs step up . Who's are willie parker if injury happens?[/quote]Duce Staley is the backup, and has been very good in the past. Probably the MVP of the 2003 Eagles, and the team rewarded him with a ticket out of town.

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I think he meant who's our willie parker, who will step up if Portis goes down.

I'd really like to see Nemo on the field. Kid his a physical speciemen. Plus, The Citadel is a football factory.

Re: Ladell Betts in Saunders' offense
 

[quote=Daseal]I think he meant who's our willie parker, who will step up if Portis goes down.

I'd really like to see Nemo on the field. Kid his a physical speciemen. Plus, The Citadel is a football factory.[/quote]Ah, I see that now. Yeah, it would be Betts, for this year at least.

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[quote=That Guy]what if its true?

should we be praising the great play of taylor jacobs, cory raymer, and antonio brown? cause i sure won't anytime soon.[/quote]


What if what is true? Redskins do not suck. Yes you should appreciate Jacobs, Raymer and Brown. Jacobs was always the last guy off the practice field last year, and still wanting more reps. Raymer has played with injuries and more injuries. And you name A. Brown, come on....Byner had to pick up Brown's spirits after the mistakes he made or maybe we should call them accidents. I'll bet you were not to upset with Brown returning a game changing (Win) kick vs. the Cardinals, huh?
"What if it is true?" What does that mean? REDSKINS do NOT suck! NOT ONE EVER HAS. You either love, live and bleed Burgundy and Gold, or you do not(that is for you to figure, hint powder blue and silver).
Hail

Re: Ladell Betts in Saunders' offense
 

that's nice, but it's also totally out of touch with reality. if everyone on the skins roster is truly a superstar, then why haven't we won 32 superbowls by now?

you can believe whatever you want, but don't tell me what to think or that i'm not allowed to have my own opinions. This forum also asks its members not to question each other's fandom (or what have you)... so if that's your attempt at such, it's extremely lame and not very effective.

and i can't believe you can sit there and tell me jacobs doesn't suck cause he practices harder? sorry, but it doesn't show, so it doesn't count. and why would i be upset with a return TD? I was however upset with his excessive fumbling and total inability to know when to make a fair catch or how to break a tackle or use a move of any kind. I also don't care how many injuries raymer has had, I only cared about how much he was hurting the team when he was on the field... those arguements are all beyond weak.

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I don't believe that Jacobs is really the hardest working guy on the team either. If he really was, with his college production, he would have more than enough talent to be successful at this level. He may just not "get it" yet, in which case there is still hope.