Re: Will Our crappy O-Line kill cooleys production?
 

thomas and jansen are top 5 at their position, and samuels is in the 5-10 range too. rabach is average and dockery is average or slightly below, but calling this oline crappy is insane.

if its so bad, name at least 15 teams that have better overall offensive lines please.

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Ya WTF man our line is fine. I can easily say it is the best line in our division. Everyone elses is going through changes. We get a little better each year and I think you will see a major improvement this year. I mean you Buges coaching the line and Saunders is running the system. Kill this thread

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Puff-puff-pass, puff-puff-pass. Dude, you are doing too much puffing and not enough passing. To suggest that the Redskin offensive line is crappy is STUPID. The Skins offensive line is very good. It iss one of the better units in the NFL. The O-line could use a little more depth, but the starting five is as good as any unit in the NFL.

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I wouln't call the O line crappy by any means, when they are healthy it is very good line. The problem we have is depth, if we lose 1 or 2 starters it doesn't look good. I have faith though Bugel can coach some backups up before the season starts. I also agree with the fact that defenses are going to have to spread out against us, so that should help cut back on injurys.

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Depth is definitely the biggest concern. But before we go getting up in arms over it, maybe we should consider that the players we have signed/drafted recently are capable of performing when called upon. We haven't seen any of these guys play yet, so it's natural for us to worry because we don't have anyone proven. But Gibbs did go get Pucillo and Walter, plus Molinaro has been getting the Buges tutelage for 3 years now, plus our recent undrafted free agents. It's definitely an area we should be concerned about and we should be watching the performance of these guys in the preseason. But I guess all I'm saying is let's give them a chance to show us something. Just because Cory Raymer was a disaster last year when we had to play him at guard, that doen't necessarily mean our depth is a complete disaster this year. Let's wait and see.

Re: Will Our crappy O-Line kill cooleys production?
 

Why would you be concerned about Cooley's production when the KC tight-ends have flourished for many years in Al Saunder's offense.

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JAMF-
Frankly I do not care who gets the big prodution numbers this year: Moss, Llyod, Cooley, Patten, Jacobs, whoever.
All I care about is our Offense being strong and productive. I would rather our offense be balanced and have everyone get a piece of the pie rather than like last year where 2 or 3 guys get the big numbers. That will make our offense unpredictable and defenses can not key on Moss or Portis and eliminate them from the game.

Next year if Cooley's stats go in the shitter but we win the super bowl, I frankly would be happy.

I like Cooley and I do not want this to be taken like I think Cooley is not good, but the expectation level on Cooley by some on this sight is extremely high. Cooley MAY some day be a probowl type player, but he is not there yet. There are several other TE's with more name recongnition in front of him:

NFC
1) Alge Crumpler, ATL
2) Jason Witten, DAL
3) Jeremy Shockey, NYG

AFC
1) Tony Gonzalez, KC
2) Antonio Gates, SD

I am very happy with Cooley as a Redskin.

Re: Will Our crappy O-Line kill cooleys production?
 

Crappy o-line???:doh: This is like one of those half-assed threads on extremeskins. Come on!

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Lighten up guys!

I personally think our line is top ten material, however I don't think someone is stupid simply because their opinion does not match mine.

BTW, I think I could make good arguments either way.

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Hmm, I'm beginning to think a lot of people don't think we have a crappy o-line. You know....they're right. Our O-line was crappy during the Seattle seahawks game but that's about it.

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[quote=724Skinsfan]Hmm, I'm beginning to think a lot of people don't think we have a crappy o-line. You know....they're right. Our O-line was crappy during the Seattle seahawks game but that's about it.[/quote]

It's funny cuz I was watching something last night (I think it was nfl network) and they were discussing why everyone (Peyton included ?) was "throwing the Colts offensive line under the bus" (I guess as scapegoats) in the game against the steelers.

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Man, what the offseason would've been like if Vanderjagt had made that FG! Talk of Peyton not being able to get to the big game and the o-line sucking would gone right out the window. Hopefully Vandy will carry on the tradition in his new uniform.

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O-line is fine if Jansen and Thomas are healthy. If not, we have some depth issues to explore.

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The title of this thread is enough to get you laughed at. Exactly what does that mean?

Are you saying that Chris Cooley's high production with an offensive line that was just a little banged up, will be less with the same offensive line when it's completely healthy?

I mean, it's fun to argue and all, but you don't have a point.

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Ahahaha, well atleast you guys are united!!!

read my original post, I did say that they were talented. Jansen and thomas might be the best RG+LT in the game... I love them especially thomas.
But
I am not fond of Samuels, Dockery and that speed bump of a center. Samuels makes the probowl... Well only because most fans can only name 5 left tackles in the game and 6 go to the probowl.
Dockery has so much potential but as someone said earlier, he is to inconsistent.

If our guys are so good, why were we in MAX protect so often? putting 4 WR's in route helps Moss even if the other guys are scrubs. Most of the year it was Cooley and Moss going out for a pass on third down and thats it!

Also, can anyone honestly say that the redskins oline dominates in the running game? do you trust our guys to create a push on 3rd and short or goal?

Watch a good line Like seattle, On short yardage plays, they get so much push all alexander has to do is fall over.


Ignorant... PFFT!