Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

[quote=TAFKAS]Fumbles lost. Sorry for the misleading. I don't generally consider a fumble a turnover unless the fumble was lost[/quote]

No problemo. But you guys seriously think it will be 3:1? I mean look at other QBs, like Trent Green, in the same system last couple years. He was basically 1:1 or 1.5:1, never 3:1. In fact I am positive a starting QB last year that was not 3:1 or better, but I'll check it. 1:1 is not a bad ratio.

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

Green was 2:1 exactly in his 2002 season, which was one of his best. I should change my vote to "Other" because I really think it will around 1.25:1 or something like that. Closer to 1:1, but a bit better.

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

1) A fumble is not a turnover unless the other team recovers it. If you recover your own fumble, it is by definition, not a turnover.

2) Expecting Brunell to go 3:1 is entirely unrealistic. No QBs ever do that.

3) I'll say he performs on pace for 25 TDs, 12 INTs, and 5 fumbles lost. That'd be about 1.5:1. I'll round up to 2:1 because I'm probably being a little conservative.

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

Oops! Didn't see the fumbles part! Reading is fun! Change mine to a pastrami on rye with slaw on the side or not at all, I'm not going to eat it anyway. What's that? Oh, uh a cherry Coke.

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

[quote=Schneed10]
2) Expecting Brunell to go 3:1 is entirely unrealistic. No QBs ever do that.

3) I'll say he performs on pace for 25 TDs, 12 INTs, and 5 fumbles lost. That'd be about 1.5:1. I'll round up to 2:1 because I'm probably being a little conservative.[/quote]

Yeah what i have been trying to say, 3:1 isn't possible.

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

Factoring in fumbles is a little tricky.

Regarding TD/INT, I say 2:1 is a pretty safe estimate.

I say he'll probably be good for 5-6 lost fumbles.

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

[quote=hooskins]Yeah what i have been trying to say, 3:1 isn't possible.[/quote]

I think it's possible because he's going to have a few good games before he gets hurt.

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

[quote=TheMalcolmConnection]I think it's possible because he's going to have a few good games before he gets hurt.[/quote]

Well in that case, I am sure their are many QB's that have gone 7:1, but have played like 4 games and not been full time starters. I guess that is a whole different issue, but I gave my answer assuming that he starts a majority of the games.

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

I say give it 6 games as a measuring stick.

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

I say 3:1. He'll have more than one receiver to throw to this year, so with 6 possible places to throw the ball (3 WRs, TE, RB, FB)...he shouldn't have to hold onto the ball and scramble as much as last year. His fumbles should go down thanks to free agency and Al Saunders.

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

I'm going with 2:1. Reason being, only one quarterback in the history of the game has had over 30 touchdowns and 10 interceptions, and that was Donovan McNabb in 2004. That's excluding fumbles of course, which i think Brunell will have his share of.

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

it seems like brunell had a crapload of fumbles last season. does anyone have the actual number? this offense is more of a 3 and 5 step and throw offense so there is a chance the number of fumbles goes down

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

1.5:1, but that's not an option, so i went 2:1, which is too high.

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

last year he had 23 TDs, 10ints and 11 fumbles (6 lost).

23:16 = 1.4375:1

Re: 724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio
 

It will be low and short lived before Gibbs puts Jason Campbell in.

Brunell lasts 6 games max in my opinion.

"Campbell to Loyyd for a Redskins Touchdown!"

peace