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[QUOTE=backrow;217754]I thought this was another Brunell bashing thread, and I was going to jump on the bandwagon and state emphatically that I never wanted him, wasn't thrilled with the trade for him, and I too think he throws off his back foot too much, and throws it away in order to avoid sacks. But since he saved HOF Coach Gibbs life, and is now married to Coach Gibbs, I don't see any change at QB very soon. This in spite of the huge investment that we have in JC.[/QUOTE]

thats some funny shit,especially this line, "But since he saved HOF Coach Gibbs life, and is now married to Coach Gibbs, I don't see any change at QB very soon"
it does seem that way,gibbs wont bench him till its too late

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[quote=12thMan;217792]I'd like to chime in for a second on the throwing off the back foot thing....I've watched McNabb complete countless amazing throws off his back foot. As well as...hate to say it, Eli Manning. I'm just not sure how much merit that really has in the NFL.

I know it's a mechanical no-no, but I think it really boils down to the savvy and athletism of the quarterback.[/quote]

Agreed. Among the guys you named, Bret Favre also made a career from throwing off his back foot. An extremely talented quarterback can make nice throws off of their back foot. The problem is, most of Brunell's natural talent left him four years ago.

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The change to Saunders system also required a change in the way the o-line blocks, I think. This is causing troubles. I too have seen lots of missed blocks and free defenders, though not on super duper slo mo, and I think that's a result of missed assignments and lack of comfort in the new scheme. I think they'll get it, and I think Buges is stilla good coach. Don't forget that Portis ran for 1500 last year behind that line, and it took us to the playoffs. Some of that credit has to go to Buges, if we want to dump on him now.

Overall, I think that the problems on both sides of the ball have more to do with chemistry and confidence than with talent or schemes. It shouldn't surprise us that a new and complex offensive system takes time to implement. As for the D, injuries and new faces have hurt, but GW and Blache will get it going.

As for MB (and this is not, of course, an MB thread!), I don't care how he throws it, so long as he gets it to the recievers!

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Matty,

Can you separate that down by drives? Here's what I saw by looking at the play-by-play.

Rushes:
Drive Yds
1 0
2 6,3, and 0
3 none
4 2 (by now Dallas knows we have no rushing game)
5 19(Moss), 15
6 3
7 6,5,12 (ending at the half)(I think the last was a pass play)
Passes
Drive Down YdsToGo YdsOnPlay (- is incomplete, sack(#) is sack with yards lost)
1 1 10 6
1 3 4 -
2 none
3 1 10 15
3 1 10 7
3 2 8 -
3 1 10 6
3 1 10 -
3 2 10 sack(8)
3 3 18 14 (got the FG)
4 2 8 -
4 3 8 -
5 1 10 sack(11)
5 3 11 -
6 1 10 -
6 3 7 -
7 2 4 -

By the end of the 4th drive we have a total of 11 yards, only 1 rush longer than 3 yards. See if they starting blitzing about then. After all, they didn't have to worry about our running game, and they could just tee off.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;217780]I broke down the first half of the game last night with my DVR on SUPER SLO MO and I even broke out my armchair clipboard and charted the plays. I even put on my PS2 headset just so I could feel even more like a wannabe loser. Afterwards I put all the info into a spreadsheet and this is what I found.

In the first half alone I noted 7 instances where one defender or more was running free to the QB without being blocked at all. I don't care what QB you're talking about, that kind of pressure is going to disrupt an offense.

I need to finish breaking down the 2nd half tonight, but I'm trying to find the SUPER DUPER SLO MO button so I can break it down frame by frame. I'll then chart those results in a pie chart and divide everything by pi.[/QUOTE]

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Sorry, that formatting came out like S**T, but hopefully the idea is still intelligible.

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I'm not sure if this thread has been hijacked yet, or if it's been merged (I know we're not "bashing MB", but this thread is like saying "I don't mean to interrupt, ..." and then you go ahead and interrupt anyway), but I'm adding my own thoughts on Missississippi (and other southern schools). I like #8 the best (the joke, not the player).

[quote=Hog1;217787]Safety tip:
Super Duper Slow mode is oft referred to as "Mississippi mode" or in Mississippi as Arkansas mode, or Clinton mode. Check manufacturers listing for other loser data.
Residents of Mississippi, Arkansas notwithstanding. Sorry Hillary[/quote]

(1) What does the average Mississippi player get on his SATs?
.........Drool.

(2) What do you get when you put 32 West Virginia cheerleaders in one room?
...........A full set of teeth.

(3) How do you get a Georgia cheerleader into your dorm room?
..........Grease her hips and push.

(4) How do you get a Florida graduate off your porch?
..........Pay him for the pizza.

(5) How do you know if an Alabama football player has a girlfriend?
.........There is tobacco spit on both sides of his pickup.

(6) Why is the Kentucky football team like a possum?
......Because they play dead at home and get killed on the road.

(7) What are the longest three years of a LSU football player's life?
...........His freshman year.

(8) How many Virginia Tech freshmen does it take to change a light bulb?
..........None. That's a sophomore course.

(9) Where was O. J. headed in the white Bronco?
.......... Durham, North Carolina. He knew that the police would never look at Duke for a Heisman Trophy winner.

AND FINALLY

(10) Why did Tennessee choose orange as their team color?
.........You can wear it to the game on Saturday, hunting on Sunday, and
picking up trash along the highways the rest of the week.

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lol.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection;217786]Mmmm. Pie. Question 3.[/QUOTE]

Ever notice how Pi starts with the digit "3". Clearly, we at the Warpath are connected with the cosmos - "Pi" being one of our favorite subjects and "3" being our most unsolvable question. It's kismet.

As for any true analytical discussion relevant to the Skins performance, I appear to have had a short term memory loss - has the season started yet?

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[QUOTE=Hog1;217749]There aren't to many things that cause more chaos on a team, or make a coach/francise look more foolish than to switch QB's in and out. Certainly a recipe for disaster. And................I'll answer it before it gets shot back at me. It's only two games (12% of our scheduled games), not a season. It's far from over![/QUOTE]



That's why Gibbs is not going to change QB's at this time regardless of how many polls we conduct to suggest otherwise. On offense the O line and the run game is what needs to get going, and it's not going to happen with Betts. We desperately need Portis healthy and back in the lineup then we can rush the ball 30-35 times a game. This O line is best suited for running and setting up the play-action pass.

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Gibbs doesn't mind making sudden changes, look at Ramsey.

but yeah, Betts needs a hole with a HOV lane to run through, he's not near crafty enough to find (or make) his own.

i think its time we realize our O-line is good but clearly not dominant even on its best days. Portis made his record breaking yard total last season improvising holes for himself, if he ever had huge gaps made for him consistently he'd be getting alot more breakaway long ones.

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10) Why did Tennessee choose orange as their team color?
.........You can wear it to the game on Saturday, hunting on Sunday, and
picking up trash along the highways the rest of the week.

THAT IS HUMOR!

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[QUOTE=illdefined;217829]Gibbs doesn't mind making sudden changes, look at Ramsey.

but yeah, Betts needs a hole with a HOV lane to run through, he's not near crafty enough to find (or make) his own.

i think its time we realize our O-line is good but clearly not dominant even on its best days. Portis made his record breaking yard total last season improvising holes for himself, if he ever had huge gaps made for him consistently he'd be getting alot more breakaway long ones.[/QUOTE]

ramsey wasnt gibbs boy,brunell is,he's already shown before that he will go down with the sinking ship that is mark brunell ,and he will do it again this yr

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[QUOTE=htownskinfan;217898]ramsey wasnt gibbs boy,brunell is,he's already shown before that he will go down with the sinking ship that is mark brunell ,and he will do it again this yr[/QUOTE]

i fear you're right. except, isn't JC Gibbs's boy too??

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[QUOTE=illdefined;217919]i fear you're right. except, isn't JC Gibbs's boy too??[/QUOTE]


The problem is Gibbs made some guarentees to Brunell to convince him to come here and want's to back it up.

As well Mark is Gibbs illegitamate son who he's now making up with for lost time.

It's obvious now Ramsey was only his step son.

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[quote=offiss;218044]The problem is Gibbs made some guarentees to Brunell to convince him to come here and want's to back it up.

As well Mark is Gibbs illegitamate son who he's now making up with for lost time.

It's obvious now Ramsey was only his step son.[/quote]

I missed that, what guarantees did Gibbs make to Brunell?