Re: Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

[QUOTE=illdefined;230521]do you blame Saunders then? the Oline? honest question.[/QUOTE]

I think, like Matty says and we've both said before, it's just a matter of him not being a top option these days. I don't think the blame can be simply pinned on Brunell for not reaching every receiver multiple times each game. Beyond Tom Brady, how many QBs really spread the wealth around so much?

Re: Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

[quote=TAFKAS;230519]And yet all those times he found him last year, Brunell gets no credit for that.[/quote]

He got credit for last year when it mattered... last year.

And I agree with the people that think the problem is the person delivering the ball, and not the person catching it. Cooley only gets passes his way when he's Brunell's first read, which is far less than last year, since there's a true #2 receiver now.

Re: Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

yeah i can see that. but there are articles written on how little the new #2 and #3 have been getting it this year (besides in the flat).

i think Patten is actually a better receiver than anyone thought, Brunell just didn't look to him much last year.

Re: Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

Cooley isn't getting as many looks, espicially in the red zone, so his numbers are suffering. He's doing a great job in run blocking this year, very much improved. Cooley is not a weak link on this team by any means.

But here's a good point. Last year we were using Cooley to max potential. This year, it's not even close. So was it really neccessary to add TWO WRs in the offseason?

I'd say no.

Re: Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

[quote=TAFKAS;230530]I think, like Matty says and we've both said before, it's just a matter of him not being a top option these days. I don't think the blame can be simply pinned on Brunell for not reaching every receiver multiple times each game. Beyond Tom Brady, how many QBs really spread the wealth around so much?[/quote]In general, Mark Brunell is high on the spreading list. McNabb and Peyton are up there too. Pretty much all good QBs spread the ball, and I do think that Brunell has been struggling to get to the level of the comfort in this offense to where he can spread the ball around efficiently. He's doing an okay job, but not as good as last year.

Campbell, I imagine, would be way behind in this part of his development.

Re: Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;230536]Cooley isn't getting as many looks, espicially in the red zone, so his numbers are suffering. He's doing a great job in run blocking this year, very much improved. Cooley is not a weak link on this team by any means.

But here's a good point. Last year we were using Cooley to max potential. This year, it's not even close. So was it really neccessary to add TWO WRs in the offseason?

I'd say no.[/QUOTE]

same with "Endzone" Sellers

Re: Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

[QUOTE=GTripp0012;230536]Cooley isn't getting as many looks, espicially in the red zone, so his numbers are suffering. He's doing a great job in run blocking this year, very much improved. Cooley is not a weak link on this team by any means.

But here's a good point. Last year we were using Cooley to max potential. This year, it's not even close. So was it really neccessary to add TWO WRs in the offseason?

I'd say no.[/QUOTE]

I think Gibbs did that because he didn't want another recurrence to last year of Farris and Taylor Jacobs starting with a playoff run on the line

Re: Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS;230549]I think Gibbs did that because he didn't want another recurrence to last year of Farris and Taylor Jacobs starting with a playoff run on the line[/QUOTE]

Then why is David Patten still with the team?

We could have used either Randle El or Lloyd. But it looks like we didn't need both. Settling on one would have saved us from parting with a couple of draft picks, too.

But hey, who needs draft picks when you have the keen forsight of Snyder and Cerrato to pick through the trash and spare parts of other 4-12 teams around the league?

Re: Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

[QUOTE=memphisskin;230436]Really? I don't think Cooley is a problem, but getting him the ball definitely is. I thought he was playing the Tony Gonzalez role in this offense, which I thought meant that he was going to be a target on a lot more plays than just tight end screens and the check down on the play action rollouts that we can't seem to run without tipping cornerbacks off and limiting our own chances for success. Cooley is on pace to catch about 40 balls. We need him to catch at least 70. I wonder if he's dropped himself in his fantasy league?[/QUOTE]
Check my post immediately preceding your post. I agree - getting the ball to receivers is a problem. However, with all of the talent at WR, it's natural for his numbers to go down. The only problem, as I see it, is that it would be nice if those numbers at least "went" to someone else.

Re: Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

I thought those WR"s were brought in to take pressure off of Moss. To prevent teams from rolling coverages Moss' way. It seems like Brunell still wants to force the issue! Cooley should be killin' that bullshit cover two D right up the hash! WTF?!!!! HAIL from MCUSA!

Re: Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

Could it be that he cut his hair? Just a thought. HAIL from MCUSA!

Re: Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

[QUOTE=TAFKAS;230519]And yet all those times he found him last year, Brunell gets no credit for that.[/QUOTE]

Keep in mind that Brunell not being able to find him could be as much a function of inconsistent offensive line play as it is mediocre QB play. Don't be so quick to assume that I'm blaming Brunell.

Re: Wheres Chris Cooley been?
 

[QUOTE=Crat92;230703]I thought those WR"s were brought in to take pressure off of Moss. To prevent teams from rolling coverages Moss' way. It seems like Brunell still wants to force the issue! Cooley should be killin' that bullshit cover two D right up the hash! WTF?!!!! HAIL from MCUSA![/QUOTE]
I think that was the primary goal, but the secondary effect of that is fewer receptions for everyone else. If you get the ball to Moss 85 times, Cooley 70, and the RBs 55, you're not really using those #2 receivers much. Although total completions should go up, Cooley (as the de facto #2 receiver) is still going to lose a couple of receptions.

Again, though, Brunell should be getting the ball to SOMEBODY if not Cooley.