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BDBohnzie 10-19-2006 10:09 AM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
Could be the whole hillbilly, kissin' cousins thing ;)

onlydarksets 10-19-2006 10:10 AM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
[QUOTE=Buster;231304]What it is about Kentucky that will help? The water? The air? The lack of technology to distract her mind?[/QUOTE]
Probably the broader dating pool, since relatives are fair game.

hesscl34 10-19-2006 10:12 AM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
[quote=Mattyk72;231280]Sounds like Griff and big Joe are going to be out again this week.

When it rains it pours. :([/quote]

.. god, this just stinks...... I'm so depressed...........

onlydarksets 10-19-2006 10:30 AM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
[QUOTE=hesscl34;231309].. god, this just stinks...... I'm so depressed...........[/QUOTE]
Take your negativity to [url]http://www.dallascowboys.com/[/url].

hesscl34 10-19-2006 10:41 AM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
[quote=onlydarksets;231317]Take your negativity to [url=http://www.dallascowboys.com/.]DallasCowboys.com - Home[/url][/quote]

... very funny...

JWsleep 10-19-2006 01:06 PM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
My impressin is that we run very few stunts on the D line. We got a sck on a stunt last week. Don't know why we don't do that more. We seem very predictable when we blitz as well. Whatever it is, we've got to fix it, fast.

Size does matter?

hesscl34 10-19-2006 01:14 PM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
[quote=JWsleep;231354]My impressin is that we run very few stunts on the D line. We got a sck on a stunt last week. Don't know why we don't do that more. We seem very predictable when we blitz as well. Whatever it is, we've got to fix it, fast.

Size does matter?[/quote]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]Size definitely matters![/SIZE][/FONT][/COLOR]

gibbsisgod 10-19-2006 01:37 PM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
Because no means no!

We are selling our blitzes way to early. We need to wait until the last possible second to show the blitzes. When we show it too early the QB has a chance to switch to max protection and our guys cant win the one on one battles.

#56fanatic 10-19-2006 02:04 PM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
We haven't been blitzing as many people as we have the past two years. They may say we blitzed 60% of the game, but sending 5 is blitz (one LB) The first couple of years GW would send 6 to 7 guys, forcing quick throws or dump offs. I think we have to get back to that. We are allowing teams to read their progressions and deliver the ball. If they are forced to throw quickly, the corners, LB's will only have to cover for 1 to 3 seconds instead of the 4 seconds they are with the limited pressure. I think going into the colts game, we have to send A TON pressure. Manning can be rattled into bad throws. (look at the games he is hounded all day) Plus, I think the corners need to play up on the WR. get a good jam, to throw the timing off. Colts are all about timing. if we send 6 to 7 guys, jam the receivers at the line I think we can get some 3 and outs and maybe a pick by a LB> If you play scared against the colts they will eat us up. We have to bring the pressure to them, especially if Joe and Grif are out.

gibbs4life 10-19-2006 02:51 PM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
[quote=JWsleep;231354]My impressin is that we run very few stunts on the D line. We got a sck on a stunt last week. Don't know why we don't do that more. We seem very predictable when we blitz as well. Whatever it is, we've got to fix it, fast.

Size does matter?[/quote]

so maybe that explains the lack of penetration then....

size indeed matters .......on the field and at home..

JGisLordOfTheRings 10-19-2006 02:55 PM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
God! with the thread title i could go all day but,...ya know...its just...too easy....

MTK 10-19-2006 03:44 PM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
I think the lack of penetration must have something to do with our tight ends.

Sorry, just couldn't resist. :)

PWNED 10-19-2006 03:48 PM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
thank god we dont have jeff garcia on the team.

Longtimefan 10-19-2006 05:56 PM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
[QUOTE=#56fanatic;231362]We haven't been blitzing as many people as we have the past two years. They may say we blitzed 60% of the game, but sending 5 is blitz (one LB) The first couple of years GW would send 6 to 7 guys, forcing quick throws or dump offs. I think we have to get back to that. We are allowing teams to read their progressions and deliver the ball. If they are forced to throw quickly, the corners, LB's will only have to cover for 1 to 3 seconds instead of the 4 seconds they are with the limited pressure. I think going into the colts game, we have to send A TON pressure. Manning can be rattled into bad throws. (look at the games he is hounded all day) Plus, I think the corners need to play up on the WR. get a good jam, to throw the timing off. Colts are all about timing. if we send 6 to 7 guys, jam the receivers at the line I think we can get some 3 and outs and maybe a pick by a LB> If you play scared against the colts they will eat us up. We have to bring the pressure to them, especially if Joe and Grif are out.[/QUOTE]




The playoff game with Pittsburg last year was a perfect example of what you're talking about. Their defense pressured Manning into submission, so bad in fact, Manning called out his OL after the game.

I'm actually suprised GW hasn't been bringing more heat despite the fact our secondary is banged up. GW is a deciple of Buddy Ryan, and Buddy always felt that you may make some plays against his blitzes but the odds were in his favor that he'd make more plays against the offense than vice versa. I say throw some of that caution to the wind, bring the heat and go after them, we have nothing to loose. I'd rather force Manning to make quick decisions than just stand back there all day and pick us apart.

SmootSmack 10-19-2006 05:57 PM

Re: Why can't we get penetration?
 
[QUOTE=Longtimefan;231442]The playoff game with Pittsburg last year was a perfect example of what you're talking about. Their defense pressured Manning into submission, so bad in fact, Manning called out his OL after the game.

I'm actually suprised GW hasn't been bringing more heat despite the fact our secondary is banged up. GW is a deciple of Buddy Ryan, and Buddy always felt that you may make some plays against his blitzes but the odds were in his favor that he'd make more plays against the offense than vice versa. I say throw some of that caution to the wind, bring the heat and go after them, we have nothing to loose. I'd rather force Manning to make quick decisions than just stand back there all day and pick us apart.[/QUOTE]

I think Springs was/is a lot more critical to the blitz packages then anyone had been willing to accept


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