Re: Randle El Signing Shows Why Skins Can't Compete
 

[quote=mason4415;255799]those same guys are sure as hell wishing they had him back. the steelers are greatly missing Randle El this year - big time! That guy does a lot that doesn't show up in the stat books. He is a bonafide game-changer. Although we may have over-paid a bit, I think it was a great signing. The bad decision, no horrible decision, was to sign brandon lloyd right after the ARE signing. Now, that was stupid![/quote]

Are you crazy? The only way ARE could have helped the Steelers this year would be to replace Roethlisberger as QB, and that'd have only worked because Roethlisberger was so terrible early in the year and if you project out ARE's QB rating over 200 throws. Besides, the Steeler's defense has been as disappointing as the Redskins, and both were comparably strong at the end of last season.

I guarantee you any conversation to offer ARE anything near Redskin money wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in Rooney's office, unless they needed more time to stop laughing.

Re: Randle El Signing Shows Why Skins Can't Compete
 

Randle-El was not signed to be JUST a punt returner -- he was signed to be a starting WR, IN ADDITION to being a punt returner. It's hard to compare his contract to that of other WRs who don't return punts. Which brings me to another point: ARE is a good punt returner, and whenever the guy has the ball he can make people miss. Don't forget that he returned one for a TD this year. (and if I remember correctly, he did it by splitting two defenders).

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I would be happy with EITHER Lloyd or Randle El, they both have their moments...but did we really need to get both, giving up two roster spots, a 3rd round pick, a 4th round pick, and countless millions when our WR sitution simply lacked depth?

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[quote=brent;255812]and if you project out ARE's QB rating over 200 throws. [/quote]If you project his rating over 200 throws...then WHAT? Oh the suspense!! Help me!!

I have no idea where you are going with this though, but you at least started your sentence as if you were going to drop a statistical bombshell.

Re: Randle El Signing Shows Why Skins Can't Compete
 

[QUOTE=brent;255812]Are you crazy? The only way ARE could have helped the Steelers this year would be to replace Roethlisberger as QB, and that'd have only worked because Roethlisberger was so terrible early in the year and if you project out ARE's QB rating over 200 throws. Besides, the Steeler's defense has been as disappointing as the Redskins, and both were comparably strong at the end of last season.

I guarantee you any conversation to offer ARE anything near Redskin money wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in Rooney's office, unless they needed more time to stop laughing.[/QUOTE]

actually no, i am not. i live in pittsburgh. that's all anyone ever talks about here. i know what i'm talking about. the steelers offense misses ARE desperately. their receivers BLOW!

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[quote=61cad;255801]But........... Gibbs had Monk. He has no big WR now.[/quote]

is there a huge difference in height between monk and lloyed ?

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[quote=mason4415;255832]actually no, i am not. i live in pittsburgh. that's all anyone ever talks about here. i know what i'm talking about. the steelers offense misses ARE desperately. their receivers BLOW![/quote]


i agree with you 100% , i know a bunch of steelers fans and everyone of them wishes the steelers would have kept A.R.EL.

he was more important to that offense then people give him credit for.

Re: Randle El Signing Shows Why Skins Can't Compete
 

Randle el isnt used properly therefore he isnt as effective...My coach said this to me at practice today

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We need to keep Randle el and Moss and Lloyd

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[QUOTE=61cad;255801]But........... Gibbs had Monk. He has no big WR now.[/QUOTE]

Monk was by many teams slated as a TE in fact i belive he played some TE here kind of like the hybrid HB possition Cooley played in the first two years he was here .... so in fact yes Gibbs does have a big WR type target now. ARE and Lloyd have to be given time to pan out the issue is in three years time thier contracts start to get bigger so it would be renegocitation time or bye time for one or both

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[QUOTE=wolfeskins;255836]is there a huge difference in height between monk and lloyed ?[/QUOTE]

Art Monk 6-3 and 210.
Brandon Lloyd 6-0 and 192.

Re: Randle El Signing Shows Why Skins Can't Compete
 

[quote=brent;255812]Are you crazy? The only way ARE could have helped the Steelers this year would be to replace Roethlisberger as QB, and that'd have only worked because Roethlisberger was so terrible early in the year and if you project out ARE's QB rating over 200 throws. Besides, the Steeler's defense has been as disappointing as the Redskins, and both were comparably strong at the end of last season.

I guarantee you any conversation to offer ARE anything near Redskin money wouldn't have lasted 5 minutes in Rooney's office, unless they needed more time to stop laughing.[/quote]
first, i don't think that roethlisberger is really the problem in Pitts. the offensive line is. they are not running the football with any consistency, and alot of games big Ben is running for his life. sure, i think he can play better, but last year he only threw the ball about 15-20 times a game. and the point about the Rooney's and money is a joke. the never pay anyone( except for Staley) and we see how that worked out. our receivers are as good as any in the league. but if you don't get the ball thrown your way, no one knows. and welcome to the board

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[quote=Mattyk72;255721]Do the smurfs ring a bell at all, or the Posse?

Outside of Monk Gibbs always favored the small and quicker WRs.[/quote]

not to mention, that Gibbs had each of the Posse get over 1000 yards a season, and still played "redskin football."

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[QUOTE=brent;255812]Are you crazy? The only way ARE could have helped the Steelers this year would be to replace Roethlisberger as QB[/QUOTE]
Yeah becuse S. Holmes is such a great return guy, I mean hell look at how he did for the Steelers when they faced KC and Denver, I mean I wish ARE could fumble the way he does on special teams...

Look lets face it like it mentioned earlier, last year ol' Big Ben threw the ball at most 20 times a game. Thanks to the awsome running game and always having a short field to work with thanks to...Yep you guessed it, Mr. Antwaan Randle El...

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[quote=61cad;255801]But........... Gibbs had Monk. He has no big WR now.[/quote]

We do have Cooley though who is a better receiving TE than Gibbs ever had in his first run.