Re: sean taylor???
 

I seriously doubt its his fault. I think he's been the victim of a failed defense. There have been some pretty good individual efforts on D this year from Springs, Golston, Washington, Taylor and Carter. Griffin has been good as well, but its like none of the pieces worked at the same time, and that can be put on the scheme and coaching.

We have some serious issues in our secondary that need to be addressed. Rogers has been repeatedly exposed this year as a borderline bust, and he was our best option at corner for most of the season. Thats sad... really...

Kenny Wright should've been cut in the preseason and Mike Rumph shouldve moved to safety. That guy could hit and I think he wouldve covered as well as Ryan Clark... I just wonder about his play recognition.

Sean has been trying to do too much, but in this defense I don't think thats a fault... .most guys arent trying to do enough...

we cant tackle. if you don't tackle you will lose. this is pop warner football 101....

Re: sean taylor???
 

i think he has too much pressure to make all the calls on d. i think you have to tell him where to go for him to be good. maybe deion can help him out.

Re: sean taylor???
 

[quote=dmek25;265365]is this really the same guy we drafted? last night was a microcosm of #21's season. out of position, bad tackling, poor pass coverage, and borderline cheap shots. how did he turn into Andre waters over night? i thought Taylor was well on his way to becoming a perennial pro bowler, but now he looks like a marginal NFL player, at best. any ideas on why? and lets keep focused on Taylors play, and not make excuses for a horrible overall defense. when in position to make plays, he just isn't getting it done[/quote]

Taylor is playing like he had always played it is just more noticeable this season. Through our "Redskin" eyes all we were trying to look at was his big hits and we were not wanting to see that he was missing a lot of tackles and because the defense was playing well at he time it was really not made a big issue. He always goes for the big hit when at times he just needs to secure the tackle

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Maybe if we had a GM he could have evaluated Taylor a little better before we spent a top 5 pick on a guy who is nothing more than a glorified battering ram. What a bizarre combination- a guy who sometimes hits like a truck, but most of the time tries that crap arm tackling and routinely gets burnt. He's known more as a dirty player than a good player. I own a Taylor jersey, and it hasn't been on my back since week 1 when he cost us the game with mulitple personal fouls late in the 4th and lame coverage. Hey, at least he didn't spit in anyone's face this year (that we know of).

And on a side note:
Gregg Williams should be under waaaay more scrutiny. The defense isn't working. Period. And I don't want to hear injuries as an excuse. Remember 2004? It was a MASH unit, and a gret one at that.

And I'm tired of hearing Gibbs say, "I'm just real proud of our character and how hard we fought..." blaaahh biddy blah blah. Win some football games. 21-27 over three years isn't cutting it. I lauged really hard during the press conference after the game yesterday when a reporter said to Gibbs: "Coach, we've heard the same thing a lot this season. The bottom line is this is a 5-11 football team. Do you think at some point you're kidding yourself with all this?" WOW!! It's a dark day for Skins when Gibbs is getting asked stuff like that.....

Forgive me, I'm not an unconditional optimist. Hail for 2007!

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[quote=GMScud;265479]...
And I'm tired of hearing Gibbs say, "I'm just real proud of our character and how hard we fought..." blaaahh biddy blah blah. Win some football games. 21-27 over three years isn't cutting it. I lauged really hard during the press conference after the game yesterday when a reporter said to Gibbs: "Coach, we've heard the same thing a lot this season. The bottom line is this is a 5-11 football team. Do you think at some point you're kidding yourself with all this?" WOW!! It's a dark day for Skins when Gibbs is getting asked stuff like that.....
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It is about time someone from the press actually asked Gibbs a tough question like that. When Gibbs returned, I was assuming that some maturity and prudence would go into front office and personnel decision making. Instead Gibbs bought into the Snyder philosophy of buying a team instead of building one. It really irks me that we're going into the draft without 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round picks, and we have Gibbs to thank for that. If this team doesn't contend for a division title next year, I'd be shocked if he returned for the last season of his contract.

Re: sean taylor???
 

And sticking to the Sean Taylor thing, the last I'll say about it is that a freakish athelete doesn't necessarily mean a good football player...

Re: sean taylor???
 

What is this Extremeskins........ i had a lot of respect for this site until i read this thread. this is absolutely ridiculous that Sean Taylors name is being brought up in any conversation regarding our defensive flusters. get serious, you guys are now reaching to areas that dont need to be looked at. is this not the same guy we drafted? thats what your asking, why? is he not in every play like you want him to be? is he not leading the league in tackles? is he not a media lollypop like cooley or portis for fans to love and get excited for press conferences over? hes a free safety, in fact, hes 16th in the league in total tackles, 2nd for safeties behind hope from tennessee. and out of our 12 turnovers, sean has a pick and 3 forced fumbles. cheap shots? who cares, thats how he is. hes had a few penalties for that this season but you know what, some of those were not warranted and you know it. imagine what it would be like without sean........ yeah thats right give it a sec and imagine that. unbelievable.

p.s. this site is ten times better than extremeskins, however this thread reminded me of those assclowns over there so i had to say something.

Re: sean taylor???
 

[quote=GMScud;265479]Maybe if we had a GM he could have evaluated Taylor a little better before we spent a top 5 pick on a guy who is nothing more than a glorified battering ram. What a bizarre combination- a guy who sometimes hits like a truck, but most of the time tries that crap arm tackling and routinely gets burnt. He's known more as a dirty player than a good player. I own a Taylor jersey, and it hasn't been on my back since week 1 when he cost us the game with mulitple personal fouls late in the 4th and lame coverage. Hey, at least he didn't spit in anyone's face this year (that we know of).

And on a side note:
Gregg Williams should be under waaaay more scrutiny. The defense isn't working. Period. And I don't want to hear injuries as an excuse. Remember 2004? It was a MASH unit, and a gret one at that.

And I'm tired of hearing Gibbs say, "I'm just real proud of our character and how hard we fought..." blaaahh biddy blah blah. Win some football games. 21-27 over three years isn't cutting it. I lauged really hard during the press conference after the game yesterday when a reporter said to Gibbs: "Coach, we've heard the same thing a lot this season. The bottom line is this is a 5-11 football team. Do you think at some point you're kidding yourself with all this?" WOW!! It's a dark day for Skins when Gibbs is getting asked stuff like that.....

Forgive me, I'm not an unconditional optimist. Hail for 2007![/quote]


Couple of things, Taylor doesn't slide beyond the fifth pick in the draft. We're lucky we got him at fifth. Secondly, with all of his struggles this year, there aren't three safeties that I take over Sean Taylor...not three.

Re: sean taylor???
 

[quote=chrisl4064;265497]What is this Extremeskins........ i had a lot of respect for this site until i read this thread. this is absolutely ridiculous that Sean Taylors name is being brought up in any conversation regarding our defensive flusters. get serious, you guys are now reaching to areas that dont need to be looked at. is this not the same guy we drafted? thats what your asking, why? is he not in every play like you want him to be? is he not leading the league in tackles? is he not a media lollypop like cooley or portis for fans to love and get excited for press conferences over? hes a free safety, in fact, hes 16th in the league in total tackles, 2nd for safeties behind hope from tennessee. and out of our 12 turnovers, sean has a pick and 3 forced fumbles. cheap shots? who cares, thats how he is. hes had a few penalties for that this season but you know what, some of those were not warranted and you know it. imagine what it would be like without sean........ yeah thats right give it a sec and imagine that. unbelievable.

p.s. this site is ten times better than extremeskins, however this thread reminded me of those assclowns over there so i had to say something.[/quote]

from one ex-extremeskinner to another...I agree with you, this site being much better but on the other hand Sean has got to take his lumps with the rest of the defensive unit. He has made some horrible decisions lately, maybe because he is trying to hard to do it on his own as I have heard, or maybe he is just little too aggressive but whatever the case may be Taylor just did not perform well at the end of the season.

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sean taylor has some work to do

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I'm glad to see Taylor out there making calls on defense. He is the only guy out there in the secondary that is assured to start in his same position next year. Was he ready or able to do it well? I don't know, but I know that there was no reason left this season to not start preparing him to do it next season.

Also, he is basically bweing asked to play both safety and LB this year. Our DBs and LBs have all stuggled which made his job a lot harder. I think he was ready to be a great safety this year, but maybe not a great leader. Hopefully we fix a few guys around him and allow him to get back to concentrating on his position.

Re: sean taylor???
 

Honestly, Taylor was absolutely terrible this year. Missed tackles poor coverage...he regressed so much. If that guy was not drafted so high by the Redskins he would have been on the bench or cut already. I don't think he had a good game all year other than Carolina.

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[quote=celts32;265514]Honestly, Taylor was absolutely terrible this year. Missed tackles poor coverage...he regressed so much. If that guy was not drafted so high by the Redskins he would have been on the bench or cut already. I don't think he had a good game all year other than Carolina.[/quote]

Who on the defense was good this year? Stars need help to get things done becuase they cant do it all themselves. This is a terrible thread so what if the guy had an off year i think it reflects the defenses performance as a whole.

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[quote=GMScud;265490]And sticking to the Sean Taylor thing, the last I'll say about it is that a freakish athelete doesn't necessarily mean a good football player...[/quote]

are you saying sean taylor isn't a good football player? b/c if you are then that is stupid.

Re: sean taylor???
 

[quote=celts32;265514]Honestly, Taylor was absolutely terrible this year. Missed tackles poor coverage...he regressed so much. If that guy was not drafted so high by the Redskins he would have been on the [B]bench or cut already.[/B] I don't think he had a good game all year other than Carolina.[/quote]


haha. That is stupid. has anyone forgotten that Sean Taylor is the best player GW has EVER coached, said it himself.