Re: Tony McGee On the 2006 Washington Redskins
 

[quote=Schneed10;269625]I disagree with Tony on Monk, though. King and probably Dr. Z are both caving this year. They've been two of the staunch opposers. Without their voices in the room saying nay, a few other votes may swing Monk's way. And he didn't need too many to make it happen.

I think he's in like Flynn.[/quote]

Schneed - I hope you are right on Monk. One thing that worries me is that one of Monk's biggest supporters in the HOF voting was Michael Wilbon but he said that he is "retiring" from the voting committee. So even though we have Peter King on board now we lost a big supporter in Michael Wilbon. I hope that King has more sway than Wilbon but we shall see.

Re: Tony McGee On the 2006 Washington Redskins
 

[QUOTE=hesscl34;269674]But WHAT did he say??? Did he say "I want out of DC"???[/QUOTE]

He never said anything of the sort. If I find a link I'll post it, but you can probably find it in the archives of sportstalk980.com. It was on the John Thompson show if I remember right

Re: Tony McGee On the 2006 Washington Redskins
 

[quote=hesscl34;269674]But WHAT did he say??? Did he say "I want out of DC"???[/quote]

No he didn't say he wanted out, that's why it's crazy that people are saying that.

[URL]http://www.thewarpath.net/redskins-locker-room/16647-portis-980-a.html[/URL]

Re: Tony McGee On the 2006 Washington Redskins
 

[quote=Bill B;269679]Schneed - I hope you are right on Monk. One thing that worries me is that one of Monk's biggest supporters in the HOF voting was Michael Wilbon but he said that he is "retiring" from the voting committee. So even though we have Peter King on board now we lost a big supporter in Michael Wilbon. I hope that King has more sway than Wilbon but we shall see.[/quote]

King definitely has more pull than Wilbon. His swing over to Monk's side was very significant.

Re: Tony McGee On the 2006 Washington Redskins
 

[QUOTE=Bill B;269679]Schneed - I hope you are right on Monk. One thing that worries me is that one of Monk's biggest supporters in the HOF voting was Michael Wilbon but he said that he is "retiring" from the voting committee. So even though we have Peter King on board now we lost a big supporter in Michael Wilbon. I hope that King has more sway than Wilbon but we shall see.[/QUOTE]

Wilbon has been a Monk supporter from Day 1. So, yes, losing him is losing a Monk vote. But he wasn't going to convince anyone who had already made up their mind.

King on the other hand has been a consistent Monk naysayer. For him to switch is significant. Especially when the locals ask him why he switched. As I said in a previous thread, PK switched after canvassing coaches and players across the country during his training camp visits - something the locals who would vote against Monk can't do.

Sorry, I respectfully disagree with Tony on this - Monk will be going in this year. Shapiro knows this is Monk's best shot and has played on PK's basic desire to be seen as consistent (a desire not mirrored in Dr. Z) and gotten him on board with the H. Carson arguments. If I was a suspicious man, I wouldn't be surprised if Shapiro sat their last year, nodding his head and going "you're so so right about Carson's intangibles Peter - he should get in" only to be turning it around on PK this year.

Re: Tony McGee On the 2006 Washington Redskins
 

Speaking of guys who should be in the hall of fame... what about Gary Clark... did he have the same numbers as Michael Irvin?

Re: Tony McGee On the 2006 Washington Redskins
 

On the issue of Portis, listening to him talk he sounds like a player who may walk away from the game sooner than some might expect. He often speaks about the beating he takes, and how he welcomes Betts as a backfield mate to take some of the load off him. I think he really concerned about being able to walk away form the game upright, and healthy.

Re: Tony McGee On the 2006 Washington Redskins
 

Trades in the nfl are rare. Especially when the player is one of the highest paid players at the position. Ladell played nearly as well as Portis last year and got paid a whole lot less. I am sure teams are more intrested in Betts than acquiring Portis with his huge cap numbers.

Re: Tony McGee On the 2006 Washington Redskins
 

[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;269602]Thanks Tony. That depressed me. :([/quote]


i mean really wtf