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Im gonna miss Hall, he was the only kicker that gets the personals from knocking guys over after the field goal.

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The word out of Seattle is they're not going to let Josh Brown get away:

Taking into account the bad taste that has lingered in the Seahawks organization since the unceremonious departure of Pro Bowl OLG Steve Hutchinson last offseason, inside sources tell us it's highly unlikely the team will allow PK Josh Brown, the player considered least expendable among its free agents, to split the scene this season. "I think it's imperative that they re-sign him," Seahawks special-teams coach Bob Casullo told PFW last week. "Considering his value to the team, it's a no-brainer."

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The whole Suisham vs. "Another guy" for kicker sounds like it might be a good poll question...personally I think he's earned a shot...he's been accurate, he's got distance, he helped us get into overtime with a clutch shot so he can handle the pressure, and he's young (25 years old).

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Suisham's kickoffs were at least adequate. Something Hall struggled with and Novak only dreamed of. There aren't a ton of kickers who have both the leg and accuracy we are looking for.

If only we had brought a good young guy back in the day. Oh whoops what ever happened to that guy Akers?

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we are the team that let david akers walk. i say at least give suisham a chance. maybe we have something here

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;269538]Anyone got Chip Lohmiller on speed dial?[/quote]

Chip was the last reliable guy we had. it's time to get someone that we don't have to cross our fingers for every time he kicks
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There are some pretty good kickers in college right now whether or not they are coming out this year I really don't know.

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[QUOTE=offiss;269589]There are some pretty good kickers in college right now whether or not they are coming out this year I really don't know.[/QUOTE]
I feel like good college kickers can be pretty iffy when they get to the NFL; maybe it's because the ball is different. This is one situation where I'd really rather pick up a free agent.

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All I have to say is:

HALLELUJAH!

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;269593]I feel like good college kickers can be pretty iffy when they get to the NFL; maybe it's because the ball is different. This is one situation where I'd really rather pick up a free agent.[/quote]

Agreed. Kickers don't have a learning curve or disrupt team chemistry either. They just kick and get ignored.

Though I'm also not opposed to giving Suisham a shot.

Matty, on your note about Josh Brown not being available, this got me thinking it's perfectly possible that the players currently listed as eligible for free agency in March may be cut in half by the time March rolls around. With so many teams absolutely flush with cap space, a lot of teams will be able to keep their guys if they so choose. We might see a lot of the quality free agents reupping with their teams over the next six weeks. That applies to every position, including kicker.

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[QUOTE=Schneed10;269646]Matty, on your note about Josh Brown not being available, this got me thinking it's perfectly possible that the players currently listed as eligible for free agency in March may be cut in half by the time March rolls around. With so many teams absolutely flush with cap space, a lot of teams will be able to keep their guys if they so choose. We might see a lot of the quality free agents reupping with their teams over the next six weeks. That applies to every position, including kicker.[/QUOTE]
I was thinking about this in terms of the Derrick Dockery situation (I know this is the wrong thread, but I'm just saying). I feel like the Skins are going to be at a huge disadvantage in terms of luring some of the free agents that we'll need.

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This is what bother's me about the choices being made over at Redskins park. If you give a young guy a shot and he proves himself, why replace him with some big dollar kicker that is "supposed" to play better and make things happen? The young guy that is doing well is the guy that will continue to work hard and do well because he has been given the opportunity of a life time. When you take a guy that has already proven his worth on some level, and then pay him millions to do what he is supposed to do every day - you get an AA!

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John Hall was in the NFL about three seasons more than he should have been. He was drafted because he had a big leg in college. Where the hell did that go? Leave it to us to bring in a guy who stops using the juice after he gets the fat contract.

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Lets trade Saunders to the Raiders for Janikowski. ;)

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[quote=hesscl34;269650]This is what bother's me about the choices being made over at Redskins park. If you give a young guy a shot and he proves himself, why replace him with some big dollar kicker that is "supposed" to play better and make things happen? The young guy that is doing well is the guy that will continue to work hard and do well because he has been given the opportunity of a life time. When you take a guy that has already proven his worth on some level, and then pay him millions to do what he is supposed to do every day - you get an AA![/quote]

Great post.

Players need to feel like their hard work will be appreciated and rewarded. If they bust their ass in practice, do what's asked, and turn in a good season, they deserve a reward. To pass over them for the next high priced free agent is going to result in a pervading sense of injustice throughout the locker room.

It causes players to think: "Well sh*t, Ryan Clark busted his ass and ran through walls for this team, and performed well out there. And then they let him go for this bum, AA? What incentive do I have to run through walls?"