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FRPLG 02-16-2007 11:43 PM

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;278189]We can't be looking to get rid of our pick. That leads to bad deals. If some team calls on draft day and wants to give us a lucrative deal for our pick, then you pull the trigger.[/QUOTE]

I have been trying to get this point across to people around here. I keep reading "we should trade down" like that should be THE PLAN. You can't plan on it. I think you have to approach Free Agency as a time to prudently fill gaps. That means finding as many players as possible who can play a role for you and do it well while paying them a market value deal. Flecther is a good idea but only if we get a market deal on him. IE: not some crizazy contract that we get stuck under in 3 years. To say he is too old is to say we shouldnt' take him at all when I think what everyone means is that he is too old to give a lot of money too. We fill holes in FA as possible and use the draft to fill other areas of need as long as we are getting solid value out of the pick. If someone comes along with a deal or if we can cook one up then go for it. But those deals don't materialize until well after free agency so considering trading our pick to get more picks to fill holes we don't know if we'll even have is silly.

I totally agree with the 'We can't be looking to get rid of our pick' mode of thinking.

Big C 02-17-2007 12:29 AM

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i said id like to trade down to around 11 because the article posted in the thread specifically said we would shop our pick.

diehardskin2982 02-17-2007 12:00 PM

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I'd only shop if Branch is taken

theJBexperience 02-17-2007 01:25 PM

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If we drop in the first round, should we still try to address the DL? It seems like there's a number of good defensive linemen this year. Or do you think we'll try to build the secondary should we trade down, since there's probably going to be a big DL push towards the beginning of the draft.

I think a guy like Reggie Nelson could be a great compliment to ST. I know Springs is probably going to get shifted to safety, so that still leaves us short a starting CB. Leon Hall could be around later in the 1st round or Darelle Revis. I just wonder what the Skins strategy will be should they slide in the order.

I'd really like to draft a defensive linemen. I know a lot of you feel we should trade down if Alan Branch isn't available at 6, but what if Amobi Okoye is? I mean he's only 19, and he is a hoss. Gaines Adams or Jamal Anderson would most likely drop to the #6 if branch isn't taken. Shouldn't we snag one of those two? I don't think we'll be able to address our DL problems through FA.

Beemnseven 02-17-2007 03:04 PM

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[QUOTE=theJBexperience;278243]If we drop in the first round, should we still try to address the DL? It seems like there's a number of good defensive linemen this year. Or do you think we'll try to build the secondary should we trade down, since there's probably going to be a big DL push towards the beginning of the draft.

I think a guy like Reggie Nelson could be a great compliment to ST. I know Springs is probably going to get shifted to safety, so that still leaves us short a starting CB. Leon Hall could be around later in the 1st round or Darelle Revis. I just wonder what the Skins strategy will be should they slide in the order.

I'd really like to draft a defensive linemen. I know a lot of you feel we should trade down if Alan Branch isn't available at 6, but what if Amobi Okoye is? I mean he's only 19, and he is a hoss. Gaines Adams or Jamal Anderson would most likely drop to the #6 if branch isn't taken. Shouldn't we snag one of those two? I don't think we'll be able to address our DL problems through FA.[/QUOTE]

If Branch is gone before #6 (with Tampa Bay picking ahead of us, it's very likely - they love picking defensive linemen) then we should stick with the D-line and take either of the two top defensive ends -- unless there's a blockbuster trade offering.

EARTHQUAKE2689 02-17-2007 03:51 PM

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we should stock with the defensive line regardless of where we draft from cause there is a plethera of talent in the d line in this years draft

GTripp0012 02-18-2007 08:58 AM

Re: John Clayton: Spotting some early free agency trends
 
[quote=Beemnseven;278257]If Branch is gone before #6 (with Tampa Bay picking ahead of us, it's very likely - they love picking defensive linemen) then we should stick with the D-line and take either of the two top defensive ends -- unless there's a blockbuster trade offering.[/quote]Has Tampa even drafted on the DL in the last 3 years at all?

I think they want Calvin Johnson.

Schneed10 02-18-2007 09:09 AM

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I hope Clayton's right.

Master4Caster 02-18-2007 09:29 AM

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[quote=Mattyk72;278100][B]Different approach for Redskins' Snyder?[/B] Even though this would be Dan Snyder's type of market, watch for a change in the Redskins' strategy. [/quote]

With limited cap room, free agent gaffs and few draft picks, what choice do they have?

It's not that the Skins rely on free agents; it's that they rely on it to excess. The team only needed[B] one[/B] wide receiver free agent last year. The did not [B]need[/B] another big hitting safety (and would not have signed Archuleta if they knew in advance that Sean Taylor would get a "get out of jail card"). They did not need a whole new playbook in a "super bowl year." It's excesses that hurt the team.

If any good came out of 2006, it would be that Snyder & company have finally figured out that being smart with the cap is not the same as being smart with the roster.

Beemnseven 02-18-2007 10:07 AM

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;278313]Has Tampa even drafted on the DL in the last 3 years at all?

I think they want Calvin Johnson.[/QUOTE]

After doing some research, you're right - they haven't used their top pick on a d-lineman since 2003. And yes, Calvin Johnson might be what allows us to get Branch.

As I see it, Oakland and Detroit will take quarterbacks. But Cleveland, Tampa Bay, and Arizona could go either way (offense or defense). If Branch is as awesome as people are saying -- a superstar at the defensive line is sometimes as lucrative to teams as franchise quarterbacks. Romeo Crennel is a defensive guy, and the Bucs always seem enamored with collecting players for a swarming defense, making that their primary focus -- they've always been known as a 'defense first' team. But hopefully Calvin Johnson will sway them the other way.

Adrian Peterson is the other offensive gem that the Browns might not want to let get away. They need help everywhere.

Like my sig says, I'm a Branch guy. Let's face it, when was the last time the Redskins had a cornerstone at defensive tackle? Branch could give us that for the first time since ... Dave Butz?

dmek25 02-20-2007 06:47 AM

Re: John Clayton: Spotting some early free agency trends
 
[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;278137][B]Christian Fauria when healthy is one of[/B] [COLOR=black][B]the best blocking te's in the nfl[/B][/COLOR] and chris cooley has really shored up his run blocking in the past two seasons the redskins need alot of things but tight end is not one of them[/quote]
please tell me this is a joke. fauria was down right horrible last season. and i enjoy reading claytons work. usually dead on with no slant to it


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