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Re: Brunell Deal Done

[quote=hesscl34;281455]He did a better job than a lot QBs in the NFL... enough said.[/quote]People don't remember this part. They just remember "dr dumpoff".

Completing passes is always a good thing. Always. Dumping the ball off is the safest way to have a successful offense.

It's not the greatest highest offensive good, that's scoring touchdowns. But completing passes [SIZE=4][B]is the quarterbacks job[/B][/SIZE]!

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[QUOTE=12thMan;281452]Hessy, let's be real for a minute...and I'll try to leave it at this...but this guy got a huge ****HUGE***contract for one good season and a couple of very average ones. Don't tell me what a great guy he is.

If he was so great, we would have gotten his a** on the cheap from jump street![/QUOTE]

WORD. You're right. I doubt he gave up any money. He probably just got more of it sooner.

I'm not saying he's a bad guy. But, I'm not saying he's a good guy either.

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Then people suck.... He wasn't perfect, but he did a decent job.

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[quote=12thMan;281452]Hessy, let's be real for a minute...and I'll try to leave it at this...but this guy got a huge ****HUGE***contract for one good season and a couple of very average ones. Don't tell me what a great guy he is.

If he was so great, we would have gotten his a** on the cheap from jump street![/quote]

It's NOT his fault they threw a BIG CHUNK of cash at him is it?

That's on the front office NOT BRUNELL, what would you do turn down the big check? I DON'T THINK SO

Cheaper to keep him this year, with the restructure!

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For those who think that Gibbs is too close to his players to do business:

Explain why Brunell's contract automatically voids at the end of the season.

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[QUOTE=hesscl34;281446]Whoa... Brunell is a stand up guy and does NOT deserve this bashing. I cannot believe some of you. WITH him we made to the playoffs, FINALLY. I'm glad he's our back up. He knows Moss, he knows the plays... and he's a good person.[/QUOTE]

Yeah I was joking.

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MB is a good guy and i wish he was 10 years younger. However, no disrespect, but signing MB to the contract we did was a massive, huge mistake. He had lost his starting job for someone else. Had we signed him to a fair deal and not "annointed" him our starter i might be able to understand the signing. Bad move that i didn't understand at the time and still don't.

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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;281469]For those who think that Gibbs is too close to his players to do business:

Explain why Brunell's contract automatically voids at the end of the season.[/QUOTE]

Well the way I see it, that mofo bastard Brunell will now have the greatest season in the history of the QB position and we'll be left with nothing at the end of the year when the Colts sign him to replace Peyton Manning. Damned Brunell always getting one up on us.

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[quote=redsk1;281473]MB is a good guy and i wish he was 10 years younger. However, no disrespect, but signing MB to the contract we did was a massive, huge mistake. He had lost his starting job for someone else. Had we signed him to a fair deal and not "annointed" him our starter i might be able to understand the signing. Bad move that i didn't understand at the time and still don't.[/quote]The compensation and value of the contract was too high. But we've made this same mistake many times since. The difference is that we got a good deal of return on Brunell whereas Carter and Archuleta and Patten and espicially Lloyd have given us nothing.

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The Ring of Shame Game: Redskins 14 Cowboys 7

Thanks Mark!

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[quote=JoeRedskin;281489]The Ring of Shame Game: Redskins 14 Cowboys 7

Thanks Mark![/quote]

That was a true flash back in time for Mark. Mark to Santana in BIG D..
What a beautiful thing! HOW BOUT THEM COWGIRLS!
I second that.....thanks a ton for that one Mark!

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[quote=GTripp0012;281479]The compensation and value of the contract was too high. But we've made this same mistake many times since. The difference is that we got a good deal of return on Brunell whereas Carter and Archuleta and Patten and espicially Lloyd have given us nothing.[/quote]

I thought you were in the "Carter really came on late in the season" faction. Maybe that was the Sheriff. And why "especially Lloyd"? He was nowhere near the embaraasment A.A. was

I'm glad Brunell could help us out. I don't think we've heard the last from him. I hope not. Its fun watching the haters come unglued when he has any success. As the backup, he is set up to succeed. No pressure. No media. Who wants to bet me he has a higher QB rating in the preseason than Campbell?

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[quote=70Chip;281498]I thought you were in the "Carter really came on late in the season" faction. Maybe that was the Sheriff. And why "especially Lloyd"? He was nowhere near the embaraasment A.A. was

I'm glad Brunell could help us out. I don't think we've heard the last from him. I hope not. Its fun watching the haters come unglued when he has any success. As the backup, he is set up to succeed. No pressure. No media. Who wants to bet me he has a higher QB rating in the preseason than Campbell?[/quote]You know 70 Chip, I'm going to be honest with you and I don't want to come off ignorant or wishy washy, but-

I have no idea what my position of Carter the player is. It seems to change as rapidly as the emotions of my PMSing girlfriend (relax, hess--its a joke). I do know that the financial implications around him are very important. We can't afford to cut [U]multiple[/U] members of the 2006 FA class before the conclusion of the 2008 season. At that point, the backloaded contracts we gave them may start to press our cap situation. Knowing that for the next two years at least, we are stuck with at least 2 out of the 3 (and they all must have 53 man roster spots), I know we must get return on the investment. Must. If we are going to make them all backups, then guys deserving of a roster spot have to go to make room for draft picks. So put me in the "we have to make this Carter thing work" and "Arch deserves a shot to earn the starting role back" groups. ROI (return on investment) is very important when you lock up 50 million in guarenteed money in a FA class.

I don't think anyone understand's my pro-Brunell arguments better than you and Mheisig...and that guy hasn't been around here in forever. Brunell (as we all predicted before last season) did a better job in his 9 starts then Campbell did in his 7. Obviously, Brunell will not be improving as a passer anytime soon, and this franchise is lucky to have had an oppertunity to pull off such a smooth QB transition. And you know as well as I that at no point along this transition did Brunell lose his head for the game. I expect Brunell to continue to produce at an above average level if he's called on (about 4 DPAR/G for those sabre-junkies out there). I don't think Campbell is there yet, but I expect Campbell to exceed this level next season. His last two starts were very, very promising. He appeared to "get it".

And to an extent, it would be somewhat satisfying to see Brunell get a win sometime next season. The reaction around here would be priceless! It shouldn't have to come to that though.

Regarding AA and Lloyd, AA has done it in this league. Lloyd never has. We gave up two mid round draft picks to get Lloyd making it the worse of the two moves. I hold out hope that Arch can redeem himself next season--or at least tackle someone. Lloyd is garbage.