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bigSkinsfan61 05-26-2007 11:14 AM

Re: DR.Z at it again
 
[QUOTE=BigSKINBauer;313498]DR. Z has something against the skins. He doesn't just point out the obvious. He targets the skins intentionally. He writes stupid collums and is always wrong. He picked us to win 3 games the year that we won 10. He is a moron.[/QUOTE]yea that's right and id like to kick him in the nutz , clown..

GiantsSuck703 05-26-2007 11:56 AM

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[quote=#56fanatic;313491]it is amazing that when people say one negative thing about the Redskins, how people out here call them the worst writers, dont deserve to have the job, morons, ect... The guys have a loyal following, and trust me, he doesn't give two shits if you read his columns. he gets paid the same amount of money. Ports and Samuels did come off as a couple of Jack asses in that interview. Laughing about something this serious is stupid. What portis said was stupid. I dont care if he apologized, it was plain stupid to say what he did. It shows he has been to a few fights himself! Just because a writer points out the obvious, all of the sudden he an idiot??? They will not be the Saints this year. When are you Redskins fans on this site become realistic? What have the Redskins done in the last 10 years that makes you think they are going to win?? I HOPE they go 16-0 and win it all, but given our history, underacheiving is more the norm that making the playoffs. Mr Z is not saying anything bad about the org. you people need to take off the burgandy & gold shades and look through the clear shades of the realistic Redskin fans. Stop bashing a writer because he says something (by the way that is NOT OFF BASE) about our Skins. More often than not, what these guys have written has turned out to be true!![/quote]

You are joking right, take off the B&G shades, give me a break. Im a Redskins fan, win or lose, im going to defend my team to anyone. It has nothing to do with a realistic fan, try talking bad about another fans team and see if they just sit there and allow you to do so.

redskinsfanatic 05-26-2007 05:36 PM

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[QUOTE]dr. z is a dumbass[/QUOTE]
and only on his best days!

Slingin Sammy 33 05-26-2007 07:44 PM

Re: DR.Z at it again
 
[quote=#56fanatic;313491]Just because a writer points out the obvious, all of the sudden he an idiot??? They will not be the Saints this year. When are you Redskins fans on this site become realistic? What have the Redskins done in the last 10 years that makes you think they are going to win?? ....... Stop bashing a writer because he says something (by the way that is NOT OFF BASE) about our Skins. More often than not, what these guys have written has turned out to be true!![/quote]

Z definitely has a history of negativity towards the Skins, most folks on this board know that and are bashing him because this is his M.O., we are sick of it, and he is way off-base. He has also been one of the major players keeping Art Monk out of the HOF for years.

There are a three points in this article which don't make any sense or show a well thought out point of view. Z totally killed Portis and Samuels. Yet he would "definitely" vote for Ray Lewis for the HOF, who although not convicted due to his plea bargain, many believe was involved in a murder. How can he destroy Portis & Samuels in one paragraph over comments and then put Ray Lewis in the HOF in the next???? Lewis is a great player, but guys involved in murders probably shouldn't be in the HOF, no matter how good they are. This sounds to me like a pretty obvious double standard and shows his bias against the Skins. Let's not forget Portis only made comments, he is not linked to any type of dog-fighting charge.

If Z actually watched the interview from WAVY-10, where the comments were originally made (and he had half a brain), he would not have lumped Samuels in with Portis on this. The expression on Samuels' face and NERVOUS laughter throughout the interview showed how uncomfortable he was with CP's comments but he wasn't going to throw Portis under the bus in a TV interview, no matter how stupid and callous his comments were. They are teammates.

Third, his analysis that the Skins won't be the Saints of 2006 because they don't have the offensive players or the scheme is just flat wrong. What players is he talking about? Portis & Betts, Santana Moss, Cooley, Samuels, Jansen, Thomas, ARE. The scheme, oh you mean the scheme that had the Chiefs (with much less talent) in the top 5 in the NFL for years. His whole point makes no sense. If he wanted to say he expects the defense to struggle due to age/expected injury or JC would not develop, then fine, those would be points that could make sense.

Gmanc711 05-26-2007 09:04 PM

Re: DR.Z at it again
 
I agree with Slingin' Sammy...if someone wants to say were not going to be the Saints of 2006, all they have to say is the defense is unproven and the needs across the defensive line were not addressed...and it sounds like a very educated statement. The one about the offense, imo, doesnt sound very educated.

EARTHQUAKE2689 05-26-2007 11:55 PM

Re: DR.Z at it again
 
[quote=BigSKINBauer;313498]DR. Z has something against the skins. He doesn't just point out the obvious. He targets the skins intentionally. He writes stupid collums and is always wrong. He picked us to win 3 games the year that we won 10. He is a moron.[/quote]


that is because his name is Dr.Z the guy is an idiotic jackass and we will leave it at that

70Chip 05-27-2007 01:21 AM

Re: DR.Z at it again
 
My beef with him is the apalling nature of sentences like:

"Now animal lovers on the Redskins, the firm of [B]Portis[/B] & [B]Samuels[/B], is weighing in with its, 'What's the big deal?' approach."

A better version:

Now, the animal loving firm of Portis and Samuels is weighing in...

or:

Now, animal loving Redskins Portis and Samuels are weighing in...

It's seems "lovers" was going to be the subject, but then the good doctor took off in another direction and left the first clause sitting there like one of Cousin Vick's neglected dogs.

MonkManiac 05-27-2007 10:26 AM

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[QUOTE=70Chip;313473]What a bad writer he is. SI has had some decent writers like Dan Jenkins and Rick Reilly. They must be embarrassed when they see such incipid drivel.[/QUOTE]

Not only is he a bad writer in content, but he is apparently also a bad writer grammatically:

"The story that won't go away: Michael Vick and the dogfights. I hate to belabor this ("Like hell you do," says F. Red) but new stuff keeps coming up. Now animal lovers on the Redskins, the firm of Portis & Samuels, is weighing in with its, "What's the big deal?" approach. This was brought to the fore by my E-mailer of the Week, Gabe of Tallahassee, who expressed outrage at the indifference these two guys showed ... actually acceptance, rather than indifference. The Skins have issued an apology. So has Portis. So has Samuels. Hey, fellas. Hey, Redskins. Take [B][I]you're[/I][/B] apologies and stick 'em."

Nationally syndicated columnists really need to learn the difference between "you're" and "your"...I learned it in 4th grade...especially IN THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF YOUR ARTICLE.

GTripp0012 05-27-2007 11:09 AM

Re: DR.Z at it again
 
Dentist Zim!!

I can only assume that he failed out of med school.

#56fanatic 05-28-2007 10:00 AM

Re: DR.Z at it again
 
[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;313548]Z definitely has a history of negativity towards the Skins, most folks on this board know that and are bashing him because this is his M.O., we are sick of it, and he is way off-base. He has also been one of the major players keeping Art Monk out of the HOF for years.

There are a three points in this article which don't make any sense or show a well thought out point of view. Z totally killed Portis and Samuels. Yet he would "definitely" vote for Ray Lewis for the HOF, who although not convicted due to his plea bargain, many believe was involved in a murder. How can he destroy Portis & Samuels in one paragraph over comments and then put Ray Lewis in the HOF in the next???? Lewis is a great player, but guys involved in murders probably shouldn't be in the HOF, no matter how good they are. This sounds to me like a pretty obvious double standard and shows his bias against the Skins. Let's not forget Portis only made comments, he is not linked to any type of dog-fighting charge.

If Z actually watched the interview from WAVY-10, where the comments were originally made (and he had half a brain), he would not have lumped Samuels in with Portis on this. The expression on Samuels' face and NERVOUS laughter throughout the interview showed how uncomfortable he was with CP's comments but he wasn't going to throw Portis under the bus in a TV interview, no matter how stupid and callous his comments were. They are teammates.

Third, his analysis that the Skins won't be the Saints of 2006 because they don't have the offensive players or the scheme is just flat wrong. What players is he talking about? Portis & Betts, Santana Moss, Cooley, Samuels, Jansen, Thomas, ARE. The scheme, oh you mean the scheme that had the Chiefs (with much less talent) in the top 5 in the NFL for years. His whole point makes no sense. If he wanted to say he expects the defense to struggle due to age/expected injury or JC would not develop, then fine, those would be points that could make sense.[/quote]



1st - I can't stand the Ravens, let me make that clear. Ray Lewis was never convicted of any crime, so you can't keep a guy out of the hall of fame. Maybe he just doesn't feel Monk has the creds to be in the hall (how ridiculous that sounds) that could be true.

comments or not - Samuels and Portis should have kept their mouths shut when it came to that stuff - I agree that Samuels was joking and laughing, but not everyone (non-redskins) fan know what a class act Samuels is and just lumps him in with the rich smart ass athlete catagory. I know he was joking, but I can see how it could come across the wrong way. Bad choice by Portis - he sounded like an Idiot and deserved the bashing.

As far as being the saints - I dont know that we will or we wont. I hate to keep putting predictions on this team. year in and year out they just underacheive. No one has any reason the believe this year will be any different. Plus, just making the playoffs doesn't make them this year saints. impressive regular season record (11-5??) offense ranked #1 in the NFL, scoring against just about anyone, consistant play, not up and down with your oppenents. There is a lot to being last years saints. I think that may be what he was getting at. Players?? I think we have better players than they had in KC when the O was outstanding, but they had Trent Green and TG, and Priest. Campbell - Cooley - Portis/Betts dont equate to that just yet.

SC Skins Fan 05-28-2007 11:35 AM

Re: DR.Z at it again
 
[quote=70Chip;313590]My beef with him is the apalling nature of sentences like:

"Now animal lovers on the Redskins, the firm of [B]Portis[/B] & [B]Samuels[/B], is weighing in with its, 'What's the big deal?' approach."

A better version:

Now, the animal loving firm of Portis and Samuels is weighing in...

or:

Now, animal loving Redskins Portis and Samuels are weighing in...

It's seems "lovers" was going to be the subject, but then the good doctor took off in another direction and left the first clause sitting there like one of Cousin Vick's neglected dogs.[/quote]

Clearly his was an honorary Ph.D. from Phoenix University Online ...

Misterbillysells 05-28-2007 11:37 AM

Re: DR.Z at it again
 
You must realize that Dr. Z isnt paid to write accurate or inside information...he's paid to get people to read his articles. Therefore they are overly sensationalist...more like tabloids for football. Given that the redskins have the largest fan base in the NFL, by attacking them he outrages a large portion of NFL fans and gets skins fans to read his stuff. He is the sports equivalent of Howard Stern or Don Imus. Dont buy into the game...just stop reading his stuff

SmootSmack 05-28-2007 11:57 AM

Re: DR.Z at it again
 
[QUOTE=Beemnseven;313466]You know, we're at the point now where Clinton Portis is taking more criticism for his [I]comments[/I] than what Michael Vick is actually *accused of*.[/QUOTE]

Very true. It's a real shame it's come to that.

I don't wish injury on anyone but man wouldn't you just love to see CP running into the end zone for the game winning touchdown on Super Bowl Sunday with such momentum that he sprints through the end zone and barrels over Dr. Z whose standing on the side line...then maybe does a little Haynesworth on him.

bigSkinsfan61 05-28-2007 03:20 PM

Re: DR.Z at it again
 
[QUOTE=SmootSmack;313701]Very true. It's a real shame it's come to that.

I don't wish injury on anyone but man wouldn't you just love to see CP running into the end zone for the game winning touchdown on Super Bowl Sunday with such momentum that he sprints through the end zone and barrels over Dr. Z whose standing on the side line...then maybe does a little Haynesworth on him.[/QUOTE]rolfmao yea that would be soooooo sweet!!!!

GiantsSuck703 05-28-2007 09:37 PM

Re: DR.Z at it again
 
[quote=SmootSmack;313701]Very true. It's a real shame it's come to that.

I don't wish injury on anyone but man wouldn't you just love to see CP running into the end zone for the game winning touchdown on Super Bowl Sunday with such momentum that he sprints through the end zone and barrels over Dr. Z whose standing on the side line...then maybe does a little Haynesworth on him.[/quote]

I wonder if they would suspend him for doing that to nurse Z


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