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wilsowilso 07-16-2007 06:01 PM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
I think it's a good thing for the D line to get a dead last ranking because you know that they will hear about it and it's pretty embarassing to be called the worst so I figure they will be very well motivated to prove that this ranking is not at all justified. If they were ranked 30th it might be easier to brush off, but last is last and these guys could probably use some fire.

Skinner 07-16-2007 09:14 PM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
Damn, he right.Daniels and Wynn are like 80, and suck (seriously why havent we cut them now?) Griffin is always injured. Golston and Carter are the only promising players on tha d line.

Oakland Red 07-16-2007 09:51 PM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
The secondary situation has greatly improved as has our linebacking, and that will reverberate in terms of what the defensive line will be able to do.

In passing situations, we have Marcus Washington (proven pass rusher) and Andre Carter (came on strong last year after switching from linebacker).

At tackle, Griffin has been excellent when healthy. He's healthy.

Anthony Montgomery has great talent and ability. Last year he was a rookie and it was a learning experience. I think he will show something big this year.

Kedric Golston has a lot of energy and ability and he is coming off a rookie season where he moved into a starting role. He will only be better this year.

Philip Daniels is healthy again and will only have to play in running situations.

Renaldo Wynn has always been a very competent and solid player, and is a good veteran to have as a backup in my view.

Joe Salavea has been hurt; we'll see how he does in a backup role now that he's healthy.

I have been hoping to hear some good news about Justin Hickman from UCLA, who we signed as a free agent. He is promising at least for the future.

Pocket$ $traight 07-16-2007 11:21 PM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
Someone write that synopsis on some toilet paper so I can wipe my ass with it.

djnemo65 07-16-2007 11:29 PM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
Well, I don't think the author gives a fair evaluation of Griffin, who while underachieving for a stretch with the Giants, has been pretty dominant with us when healthy. Second, I don't get the feeling he has really studied or understands the potential of Golston and Montgomery, who I think both have a chance to play solidly this season. We lack depth and we won't be dominant, but I think that we have enough talent to be more than adequate.

One final point. In 2004 people looked at the Skins defense and saw the Dline as our weakness, predicting we would give up tons of yards on the ground. In fact, we were ranked as one of the top rush defenses all season, and finished ranked third overall in total defense. The point I am making is not that this is 2004, but that 2004 proves that when you have a defense clicking as a unit it can make up for a lot of things, including a lack of big time names up front.

EARTHQUAKE2689 07-17-2007 12:49 AM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
I dont think that we have the worst

Beemnseven 07-17-2007 07:21 AM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
[QUOTE=GTripp0012;329338]This analysis is most likely correct, [B]but very simplistic in its nature.[/B] I don't think I learned anything I didn't already know from reading this report.[/QUOTE]

Sometimes, it's just that simple.

hesscl34 07-17-2007 08:48 AM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
[quote=Mattyk72;329258]So says Scouts Inc.

Link: [URL]http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/news/story?id=2935257[/URL]

[B]32. [/B][URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=was"][B][COLOR=#000000]Washington Redskins[/COLOR][/B][/URL]
Six-year veteran [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5454"][COLOR=#000000]Andre Carter[/COLOR][/URL] is the most solid player on the defensive line. He has been surrounded by underachievers and aging athletes. Carter has excellent quickness off the edge but has never been a physical player versus the run. [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3634"][COLOR=#000000]Phillip Daniels[/COLOR][/URL] is on the backside of his career and does not have much playmaking ability. Backup ends [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5710"][COLOR=#000000]Demetric Evans[/COLOR][/URL] and [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=3924"][COLOR=#000000]Renaldo Wynn[/COLOR][/URL] have shown little playmaking ability throughout their careers. Defensive tackles [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=5071"][COLOR=#000000]Cornelius Griffin[/COLOR][/URL] underachieved in 2006 and has been an inconsistent performer much of his career. Rookie sixth-round pick [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=7945"][COLOR=#000000]Kedric Golston[/COLOR][/URL] and backup [URL="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/players/profile?statsId=4336"][COLOR=#000000]Joe Salave'a[/COLOR][/URL] play hard but don't have the tools to be impact players. The Redskins didn't address the defensive line deficiencies in the 2007 draft. Instead they tried to plug holes with veteran retreads.[/quote]

[COLOR=black]Funny how we go from having the 3rd ranked D to this? Andre Carter was a joke until mid-year last year when he actually started to play - so he is our best player now? It was a bad year last year, but that means we suck now?? It's all so stupid, and this guy had to think of something to write about to fill his boring day. I hope our D makes ESPN eat their words…. I’m confident they will. [/COLOR]

dmek25 07-17-2007 08:57 AM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
i think the way people on this board look at C. Griffith, and the way the rest of the league looks at him, is totally different

gibbsisgod 07-17-2007 09:12 AM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
[quote=dmek25;329893]i think the way people on this board look at[B] C. Griffith,[/B] and the way the rest of the league looks at him, is totally different[/quote]
Is he any relation to Andy?

And good morning to you sir!

dmek25 07-17-2007 09:19 AM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
sorry about the spelling:) and good morning. hope the kids are well

EARTHQUAKE2689 07-17-2007 09:20 AM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
[quote=dmek25;329893]i think the way people on this board look at C. Griffith, and the way the rest of the league looks at him, is totally different[/quote]


Griffin when healthy is a very solid presence up front. JUst has had injuries the past 2 seasons.

And GM everyone!

gibbsisgod 07-17-2007 09:22 AM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
[quote=dmek25;329904]sorry about the spelling:) and good morning. hope the kids are well[/quote]
They are just fine. I got my son(18 months) saying "Go REDSKINS" all the time now. It comes out more like "o ehsins" but I really like the effort. He is "Super Smart".


Edit: And GM to you as well MR. Quake! How are things in NC this morning?

irish 07-17-2007 09:55 AM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
[QUOTE=dmek25;329274]if anyone disagrees with this, they aren't watching the same redskins[/QUOTE]

I couldnt have said it better myself.

hesscl34 07-17-2007 11:29 AM

Re: Redskins have the worst defensive line in the league
 
[quote=wilsowilso;329360]I think it's a good thing for the D line to get a dead last ranking because you know that they will hear about it and it's pretty embarassing to be called the worst so I figure they will be very well motivated to prove that this ranking is not at all justified. If they were ranked 30th it might be easier to brush off, but last is last and these guys could probably use some fire.[/quote]

Greg Williams has got to be pissed.


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