Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis?
 

[quote=Redskin Rich;361009]OK... I got a little inside scoop recently... a pretty good source..... I heard Portis is the one who usually takes himself out of the game.... that to me shows a lack of heart.[/quote]Or maybe fatigue.

Either one really.

Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis?
 

[quote=Redskin Rich;361009]OK... I got a little inside scoop recently... a pretty good source..... I heard Portis is the one who usually takes himself out of the game.... that to me shows a lack of heart.[/quote]

Yeah we've pretty much known this for a while now it's not really a secret.

All I know is when he's on the field he busts his ass and goes 110 mph whether it's running or blocking.

I have zero questions regarding his heart and I don't see what the big deal is if he takes himself out, Gibbs has let him do that from day one.

Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis?
 

[quote=Mattyk72;361018]Yeah we've pretty much known this for a while now it's not really a secret.

All I know is when he's on the field he busts his ass and goes 110 mph whether it's running or blocking.

I have zero questions regarding his heart and I don't see what the big deal is if he takes himself out, Gibbs has let him do that from day one.[/quote]
Yes, but the true great running backs don't do that... Either he has little heart, or he just is not in shape to been an everydown back.

However you slice that, means IMO he is overpaid.

Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis?
 

[quote=Redskin Rich;361021]Yes, but the true great running backs don't do that... Either he has little heart, or he just is not in shape to been an everydown back.

However you slice that, means IMO he is overpaid.[/quote]

Plenty of guys check themselves in and out.

If Gibbs is ok with it, so am I.

The results speak for themselves on the field. CP is on pace for close to 1200 yards and 12 TDs. And people are still finding ways to bash on him. I don't get it. :doh:

Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis?
 

[quote=Redskin Rich;361021]Yes, but the true great running backs don't do that... Either he has little heart, or he just is not in shape to been an everydown back.

However you slice that, means IMO he is overpaid.[/quote]

Considering what he's produced so far this season... so is Betts.

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[quote=Mattyk72;361022]Plenty of guys check themselves in and out.

If Gibbs is ok with it, so am I.

The results speak for themselves on the field. CP is on pace for close to 1200 yards and 12 TDs. And people are still finding ways to bash on him. I don't get it. :doh:[/quote]

Agreed. And I'm perfectly fine with him "only" getting 1200 yards since the passing game is becoming more effective each week.

Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis?
 

[quote=Southpaw;361024]Considering what he's produced so far this season... so is Betts.[/quote]
Betts is not being paid superstar money... he is being paid back up money... how is that overpaid?

Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis?
 

[quote=Redskin Rich;361032]Betts is not being paid superstar money... he is being paid back up money... how is that overpaid?[/quote]

He's not making the vet min. either and he's only averaging 2.7 yards per carry this year.

Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis?
 

I feel like a broken record with this. Anyone who watches Portis on the field, especially when he's not carrying the ball-so when he's laying out a block, running a route, or chasing down a defender after a turnover, has no reason at all to question his heart. None.

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With the two back system....portis has managed to play in every game this season.....much better than last year....I think things are working the way they are. Keep him fresh...cause when he is...he has all the tools.....betts will get better as the season progresses

Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis?
 

Do people just need something to complain about? Portis getting through the season healthy is a good thing and cutting back on his carries a bit is a good thing. If Portis has no future with this team beyond this season then run the hell out of him and damn the consequences. If you want to think longer term then it is much better for him to get 18 carries than to get 25-30. In Denver he never carried more than 290 times, in Washington he was carrying 350 a year until last season. Last year Betts proved he could carry the rock. This year he isn't getting the carries and maybe is pressing a bit when he is in there but he is still valuable and I think he has been running hard when he gets the chance from everything I've seen. If you go back and watch the Giants game at the end he slammed it in there hard, especially that fist carry. Last season everyone loved Betts, this offseason at least a few people questioned Portis' future with the team, how the world turns ... I guess I'll just wait until the next time the Skins lose and some people start calling for Joe Gibbs' head.

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[quote=SmootSmack;361046]I feel like a broken record with this. Anyone who watches Portis on the field, especially when he's not carrying the ball-so when he's laying out a block, running a route, or chasing down a defender after a turnover, has no reason at all to question his heart. None.[/quote]

Best running back in the NFL when he doesn't have the ball in his hands (not saying he's not pretty good when he does have the ball in his hand).

Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis?
 

I think the two back system is working. Portis is staying healthy and is productive. Betts, in my view, still runs the counter runs better than Portis and is a more reliable receiver. Portis is the big play threat. Portis and Betts makes one of the best two back combinations in the NFL. Keep it going.

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Like I said, I have no problem with the two back system. It's working fine. I'd just like to see Portis get about 5 to 10 more touches. Maybe not every game, just more often.

Re: Portis and Betts: Should We Just Stick With Portis?
 

[quote=SmootSmack;361046]I feel like a broken record with this. Anyone who watches Portis on the field, especially when he's not carrying the ball-so when he's laying out a block, running a route, or chasing down a defender after a turnover, has no reason at all to question his heart. None.[/quote]AMEN!!!