Re: Hall of Fame Odds Changing for Monk?
 

[quote=dgack;367297]And the 1985 Bears are probably the most overrated team in modern NFL history, considering how weak the opposing teams they faced were.[/quote]
this arguement is lame. while the competion may not have been stiff, you still have to beat the teams you play. and they beat a very good 49ers team in the playoffs

Re: Hall of Fame Odds Changing for Monk?
 

[quote=dmek25;367595]this arguement is lame. while the competion may not have been stiff, you still have to beat the teams you play. and they beat a very good 49ers team in the playoffs[/quote]

Huh?

[URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi1985.htm"]They beat the Rams and the Giants in the playoffs[/URL].

I also think the '85 Bears are a tad overrated. In terms of balance there have been plenty of other Super Bowl Champs who were far more balanced on each side of the ball. Yes the Bears had an incredible defense that year, but offensively especially in the passing game they really weren't very scary. They won with a nasty D and a good running game.

Re: Hall of Fame Odds Changing for Monk?
 

[quote=dmek25;367595]this arguement is lame. while the competion may not have been stiff, you still have to beat the teams you play. and they beat a very good 49ers team in the playoffs[/quote]

Sure, and this is why they won a Super Bowl. I'm not arguing that the team was good, or that they deserved the Super Bowl at all. Just that the legend of the 1985 Bears is much larger than reality, and when you start comparing teams from different times you must take those other factors into account.

Anyway, this is a total threadjack, back to the real discussion...

Re: Hall of Fame Odds Changing for Monk?
 

What I don't understand about the probowl argument is why Monk seems to be the only player whom it applies to?