Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

[quote=redsk1;389126]He is young and going to make mistakes but they noted the skins have only one redzone threat...Cooley. Well guess what..these teams know that. After that who else? His sources say JC really needs a big WR threat to become more effective. [/quote]

This was me a few days ago in another thread:


[quote=Southpaw]Cooley has size and strength, and he is the best receiving threat in the red zone, but the problem is every team in the league knows that. Every time Campbell went to Cooley in the endzone yesterday, he was triple covered. I'm actually surprised that Cooley was able to have such good receiving numbers, since there were Bills drapped all over him, all day long.

But Washington still needs a true possession receiver. A big receiver with good hands that can bail Campbell out when his passes are a foot or two off the mark. Something which Santana Moss seems unable to do. I don't know how or where they'll find this guy, but they need to do it ASAP.[/quote]

It's not rocket science. Every team in the league has figured out that Cooley is the only legitimate red zone threat. And yet the coaching staff hasn't done anything to combat this situation.

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

[quote=Texanskin;389133]I really want to see this Mix dude.
If he is a bust then....well we did pay vertually nothing for him.lol.
I am curious to see him in action[/quote]

Agreed. I said this after the JC INT at the end of the TB game. We have a 6'5" receiver. Throw him the damn fade, not to a 5'9" Moss. If the guy is no good then don't keep him around or put him on the practice squad, but give him a chance.

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

I really don't know much about Mix. However, he was dumped by the NYG. Sometimes people, mis-evaluate talent but usually not. I don't think he is the answer.

Someone alluded to last year or earlier this year being pretty good in the red zone. We were good when our oline was intact at the end of last year and could run it and we were good til teams "figured it out" and started doubling Cooley earlier this year.

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

[quote=rypper11;389149]Moss seems like another player with his new shoes. Hopefully he'll connect a few times downfield Thursday.[/quote]

Yeah but they still don't seem to be sending him deep. Even with the altered shoe he's not 100%.

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

[QUOTE=redsk1;389176]I really don't know much about Mix. However, he was dumped by the NYG. Sometimes people, mis-evaluate talent but usually not. I don't think he is the answer.[/QUOTE]

I don't know if you remember, but Ricky Sanders was a NE castoff. We know what he did afterwards with us.

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

[quote=redsk1;389176]I really don't know much about Mix. However, he was dumped by the NYG. Sometimes people, mis-evaluate talent but usually not. I don't think he is the answer. [/quote]

From the info I read on him, the Giants liked him, but the only WR spot he played was the X, which for the Giants is Plaxico Burress. It also appeared the NYG fans weren't happy with him being let go. I'm not saying he is the singular solution to our Red Zone woes, but when you have a 6'5" WR matched up against a 5'10" corner you have to take a shot at a fade. Even if Mix doesn't make the play, it may force the defense to adjust or shift, which may open Cooley or someone else. DBs are always taught to take away the slant inside the 10, and if you have short WRs the DBs can really cheat on the slant because the fade is extremely difficult to throw to a shorter WR.

Based on where we are with our WR corps right now we need to find out if this kid can make plays. If he can great, we found a WR. If not, we will at least have had a chance to evaluate if he can develop and is worth keeping around. He also played with Campbell at Auburn and JC lobbied to get him here. It would go far in showing confidence in JC by giving Mix a chance.

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

all we need is a tall receiver. yeah right. the answer to everything. to me, size has nothing to do with getting open. it seems to me that Steve Smith scores his share of touchdowns. whats he? all of 5' 9". Marvin Harrison scores a bunch,. and he is barely 6 foot tall. our line is the problem. once in the red zone, it always seems like Campbell is running for his life. we need to see more of Portis in the red zone. if anything, he has the knack for finding pay dirt

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

[quote=dmek25;389204]all we need is a tall receiver. yeah right. the answer to everything. to me, size has nothing to do with getting open. it seems to me that Steve Smith scores his share of touchdowns. whats he? all of 5' 9". Marvin Harrison scores a bunch,. and he is barely 6 foot tall. our line is the problem. once in the red zone, it always seems like Campbell is running for his life. we need to see more of Portis in the red zone. if anything, he has the knack for finding pay dirt[/quote]

Good points. It seems like the smaller recievers Harrison, Smith catch alot of their td passes by big plays (not all, but alot). Big plays...meaning 25 yards or more. We have a problem w/ that too no doubt.

I don't disclude smaller recievers it just seems like the bigger WR are better threats to score when the ball is in the red zone. Just my opinion. I think what other teams said was our lack of a big play WR hindering JC, not necessarily a big WR. I do think a big talented play making receiver would be a tremendous benefit. They don't grow on trees though.

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

Reason #207 why I love living in the DMV, being able to listen to Doc Walker. He was saying it doesn't matter what kind of name or reputation they have, the question is can they produce?

That said, I have a hard time believing that Gibbs, Saunders & company aren't doing everything they can to fix this. Maybe it doesn't show in the results, but something has to give, and soon.

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

[QUOTE=Schneed10;389129]Casserly's singing the same tune a lot of us have been around here.

We've got to have a big body who can leap at the WR spot.[/QUOTE]

I guess he doesn't consider Portis a red zone threat?

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

[QUOTE=HOGTIMUS PRIME;389242]I guess he doesn't consider Portis a red zone threat?[/QUOTE]

I think he means, when JC drops back to throw Portis is not a red zone threat. Even though he really isn't on the ground anymore either but that's a whole different topic.

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

This is somewhat OT, but Anthony Mix wasn't on the street. He was on the Giants practice squad. Any player on a team's practice squad is eligible to be signed to another team's 53 man roster. In recent years, we lost Robert McCune (Dolphins) and Buck Ortega (Browns) this way.

I also feel that our best chance of scoring is from 25-30 yards out (with our current offensive line). It gives those small receivers room to work (and run after the catch).

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

[QUOTE=SFREDSKIN;389189]I don't know if you remember, but Ricky Sanders was a NE castoff. We know what he did afterwards with us.[/QUOTE]

Well if Mix turns out to be great he could solve this problem

Until then, however, we are going to continue to have trouble in the redzone for the aforementioned reasons.

I still contend that it would be worthwhile looking at a receiver in the first round. With our last three first round picks busting out (Howard, Westbrook, and Gardner) odds say we are due for HOF'er :)

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

I'd like to see us take more shots between the 40s, but that also requires pass protection.

Re: Charley Casserly's Take on the skins Redzone Problems
 

Are there any big play receivers out there in the draft or free agency? I know Roy Williams wants out of Detroit but he wants to go back to Texas. Any chance of a second or third round guy falling to us? If so, who is out there?