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backrow 12-18-2007 02:52 PM

Re: Key's to beating the Viks
 
[QUOTE=irish;394602]I think you mean Vikes, not Viks[/QUOTE]

I refer to them as Vi-not-queens!

TheMalcolmConnection 12-18-2007 03:02 PM

Re: Key's to beating the Viks
 
[quote=dmek25;394563]we have to stop the run. plain and simple. right now, Jackson is not an nfl quality quarterback. [B][I]and our defense needs to be real physical with Petersen[/I][/B]. because their coach will run him, and run him some more. and Al Saunders has done a tremendous job the last couple of weeks with the play calling. in the dome, against the good vikes run defense, i look for collins to have a very good game[/quote]

This is EXACTLY the key. I saw on some show (can't remember which one) in where, if you STICK AP early in the game (I don't know what a 'stick' is described, but imagine a Sean Taylor hit) his yards per carry after that are something like 2.0 or less.

It was a crazy stat, and they showed examples of people hitting him hard. He just gets frustrated and stops running hard.

2BIG2BSKINNY 12-18-2007 03:27 PM

Re: Key's to beating the Viks
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;394659]This is EXACTLY the key. I saw on some show (can't remember which one) in where, if you STICK AP early in the game (I don't know what a 'stick' is described, but imagine a Sean Taylor hit) his yards per carry after that are something like 2.0 or less.

It was a crazy stat, and they showed examples of people hitting him hard. He just gets frustrated and stops running hard.[/quote]


well Landry has something for him!

Stop the run and load the box and the skins will do well.

Bill B 12-18-2007 05:03 PM

Re: Key's to beating the Viks
 
[quote=Mattyk72;394448]Yeah I agree we need to pass to win. I don't see much running room against the Vikings. Collins and the receivers are going to need to have a big day to help open things up.[/quote]

Matty I think you nailed it on this one - according to NFL.com the Vikings are #32 (dead last) against the pass and #1 against the run.
[url=http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&statisticCategory=TEAM_PASSING&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=&seasonType=REG]NFL Stats: by Team Category[/url]

Plus I heard reports that Antoine Winfield may not play due to hamstring issues but I bet he makes an effort to get on the field Sunday because the playoffs are on the line.

saden1 12-18-2007 05:16 PM

Re: Keys to beating the Vikes
 
1. Stop the Run (CT + AP -> Chasing Tacklers All Day).
2. Run the Ball (their two defensive tackles are starters on the pro bowl roster).

kjahorski 12-18-2007 11:37 PM

Re: Keys to beating the Vikes
 
[QUOTE=saden1;394768]1. Stop the Run (CT + AP -> Chasing Tacklers All Day).
2. Run the Ball (their two defensive tackles are starters on the pro bowl roster).[/QUOTE]

Exactly....I wasn't toooo impressed with the Vikings last night with the Bears hanging tough on a game the Vikings should of dominated. At this point of the season it's all about heart and confidence, hopefully they will wilt and question themselves, Skins are on a roll. Obviously stopping AP is the key, that guy is incredible...seems like he can switch to full speed on a dime. At least it doesn't seem like they do the screen play to him like Westbrook killed us. I hope we force them into passing...that QB will throw at least one pick....I don't know how much chance CP has against that run defense.....we should pull out the play action and dump offs to Cooley and Randle El. We need the lead early, shut up that crowd and take control...GO SKINS!....

troy 12-19-2007 12:13 AM

Re: Keys to beating the Vikes
 
the defence has got to shut down peterson and taylor...that's the key. and i'll be there to see the game. sec. 105 row 17 seat 13... i can't wait my first game since 80 or 81 and with collins running the offence we're back in the playoff race.

skinsfan69 12-19-2007 03:14 PM

Re: Keys to beating the Vikes
 
[quote=hooskins;394397]So I am bored and I compiled a list of keys to beat the Viks

1)Get ahead early and keep on it!-This is the most important thing because what I got from the game is T.Jackson is not a good passer. We need to get up and do it quick so the Viks are forced to play catchup. This will make Jackson throw alot, and make mistakes. We cannot let A.Peterson control this game.

2)Stop the run-Easier said than done. Take the Bears for example, they just played gaps well and did not over-pursue. We need to work on that because I feel like our D does over pursue at times.

3)Establish our run game-I mean we all saw last game. TC cannot play a 25+attempt passing game. he doesn't have the arm for it, and we need to help him with the run.[/quote]

Good luck trying to run against Minn. It's not going to work. Collins can handle 25 + attempts if we can protect him. We will be playing indoors instead of 30 mile an hour winds. Moss and Cooley should be able to have big days.

redsk1 12-19-2007 03:19 PM

Re: Keys to beating the Vikes
 
I trust GW & co on this one. Usually they do a pretty good job of identifying the opponents strengths and eliminating them.

As for the O...score in the red zone...put up TD's as opposed to FGs.

hail_2_da_skins 12-19-2007 03:52 PM

Re: Keys to beating the Vikes
 
The keys to the game against the Vi-Queens.

1) Stop the run. They cannot let Adrian Peterson and Chester Taylor get to the second and third levels. They need solid gap control and pursuit to the ball. Make Tavarius Jackson beat them. If I was Greg Williams, this would be the week that I would empty my bag of blitzes.

2) Have a good mix of pass and run. Pass on first down. Keep the Vi-Queen defense off-balance.

3) The offensive line needs to continue to open up holes for the running game and provide protection for Collins.

4) Blitz...blitz...and then blitz some more. Chase Jackson down like he was a 9/11 hijacker.

redskins5044 12-19-2007 08:19 PM

Re: Keys to beating the Vikes
 
the key to the game. is to just win the damn game by any means necessary


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