Re: Benazir Bhutto Assassinated
 

Pulling funding can be tricky. You dont want to pull the rug out from under our deployed troops, and endanger them.

Re: Benazir Bhutto Assassinated
 

[quote=Monksdown;397939]Pulling funding can be tricky. You dont want to pull the rug out from under our deployed troops, and endanger them.[/quote]

True and that's been the political tactic Bush has repeatedly employed among other things. Another thing, sometimes Congress will roll other incentives and bills into the funding bill in order to get it passed. For instance, a few months ago there were funds earmarked for Katrina/New Orleans into the funding bill. So many Dems were almost forced to pass it as they didn't want to keep money from flowing into that region.

Re: Benazir Bhutto Assassinated
 

why cant the Dem's just say enough is enough? they could force the presidents hand by granting enough money until June, or whenever. that way Bush would have no other choice but to withdraw

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Yeah, it's impossible to tell what people vote for anymore. They need to keep congress from adding totally unrelated issues onto bills. Make a bill about one thing and one thing only.

Re: Benazir Bhutto Assassinated
 

[QUOTE=saden1;397888]You can blame everything on Al Queda these days. The real question you have to ask is what vested interest do they have in killing Bhutto and are they the primary suspects?[/QUOTE]

[URL="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/IL29Df01.html"]Looks[/URL] like Al Qaeda has claimed responsibility for her death. They had threatened her in the past for her Pro-Western policies. The fact that she was a woman who got involved in politics probably didn't help matters.

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[QUOTE=dmek25;397950]why cant the Dem's just say enough is enough? they could force the presidents hand by granting enough money until June, or whenever. that way Bush would have no other choice but to withdraw[/QUOTE]

It's pretty hard to demand that we leave Iraq when even guys like Rep. Murtha are admitting that we have turned a corner in Iraq. Add that we are coming up on an election year and that the Dems are trying to shake the perception (right or wrong) that they are "soft" and it makes it hard for any Dem to call for cutting the funding off.

But how does Iraq directly relate to Bhutto's assasination?

Re: Benazir Bhutto Assassinated
 

[quote=Sheriff Gonna Getcha;398020][URL="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/South_Asia/IL29Df01.html"]Looks[/URL] like Al Qaeda has claimed responsibility for her death. They had threatened her in the past for her Pro-Western policies. The fact that she was a woman who got involved in politics probably didn't help matters.[/quote]


It's all [URL="http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/12/27/bhutto.dhs.alqaeda/"]hearsay[/URL] right now and the link hasn't been validated. Nothing will surprise me, however, it's way too easy, convenient, and adventurous to link the assassination to Al-Qaeda.

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I mean although I am upset she got killed, it isn't like she is some kinda God. The media makes it seem like that, but wasn't she responsible for embezzling 1 million dollars?

I don't know the whole thing is pretty bad, which represents the political situation in Pakistan.

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Come On! You guys act as if you didn't see this comming. I had a feeling as soon as she returned a few months ago that she was going to get whacked. It was only a matter of time. I bet she knew it too.

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[quote=angryssg;398043]Come On! You guys act as if you didn't see this comming. I had a feeling as soon as she returned a few months ago that she was going to get whacked. It was only a matter of time. I bet she knew it too.[/quote]


She's definitely crooked and far from a Saint. Even the Pope never leaves his glass cage when he's out and about and there she was sticking her head out. I mean, why would you do such a thing especially a few month after someone tried to assassinated you but managed to killed ~120 people instead?

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I don't think anyone is acting like this is a surprise for multiple reasons, some of which you have mentioned. And saint or not, it's still not a good thing when someone get's assassinated, especially when that someone was the first woman leader of a country. Doesn't exactly set a good precedent. I am curious as to why you say she's "definitely crooked." If you can decipher the good from the bad in that political landscape, you're way more knowledgeable than I am...

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;398124]I don't think anyone is acting like this is a surprise for multiple reasons, some of which you have mentioned. And saint or not, it's still not a good thing when someone get's assassinated, especially when that someone was the first woman leader of a country. Doesn't exactly set a good precedent. I am curious as to why you say she's "definitely crooked." If you can decipher the good from the bad in that political landscape, you're way more knowledgeable than I am...[/quote]

During her tenure as prime minster of Pakistan (1988-1990, 1993-1996) her and her husband use take kickbacks in return for contracts and favors. That's to say they had Swiss bank accounts and then some. She was so crooked that France [URL="https://www.oecd.org/document/35/0,3343,en_33873108_33873838_36428195_1_1_1_1,00.html"]changed it's bribery laws[/URL] and made it illegal for a French company to bribe foreign nationals (the French law use to apply only to French citizens and entities).

When Bhutto first started making waves in the media a few months ago I was laughing my ass off as they propped her up as some kind of a hero and savior. I was appalled when they put her in the same class as Aung San Suu Kyi.

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[QUOTE=saden1;398152]During her tenure as prime minster of Pakistan (1988-1990, 1993-1996) her and her husband use take kickbacks in return for contracts and favors. That's to say they had Swiss bank accounts and then some. She was so crooked that France [URL="https://www.oecd.org/document/35/0,3343,en_33873108_33873838_36428195_1_1_1_1,00.html"]changed it's bribery laws[/URL] and made it illegal for a French company to bribe foreign nationals (the French law use to apply only to French citizens and entities).

When Bhutto first started making waves in the media a few months ago I was laughing my ass off as they propped her up as some kind of a hero and savior. I was appalled when they put her in the same class as Aung San Suu Kyi.[/QUOTE]

I hear you on the corruption, but you have to remember that bribery is par for the course in most 2nd and 3rd world countries. It's not black and white. Anyone who doesn't seek out and kill the opposition at least gets the "moderate" label as strange as that sounds.