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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;415529]I really think Zorn will look to cater the offense to JC's strengths. I don't think anyone runs a true WC offense anymore. It's come so far down the tree now that everyone is running their own hybrid type of scheme.[/QUOTE]


Yeah that's my understanding as well. Seahawks tried to keep Zorn badly and offered him more money but with the skins this was too big a promotion to give us. He choose to leave his home town and team he played for to come here and make this offense great. That's exciting stuff.

Re: Jim Zorn will be great!!
 

[QUOTE=Mattyk72;415529]I really think Zorn will look to cater the offense to JC's strengths. I don't think anyone runs a true WC offense anymore. It's come so far down the tree now that everyone is running their own hybrid type of scheme.[/QUOTE]

and hopefully this offense will get great gas mileage too,:)and not be too bogged down like it has been.

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[QUOTE=QBall;415751]Yeah that's my understanding as well. Seahawks tried to keep Zorn badly and offered him more money but with the skins this was too big a promotion to give us. He choose to leave his home town and team he played for to come here and make this offense great. That's exciting stuff.[/QUOTE]


I agree, and to piggy-back just a little on your concept, I'm sure during the course of the interview process, various things were discussed.

Jim Zorn is well aware of Jason Campbell's strengths' as well as his weaknesses, and feel he can work comfortably with him in whatever area of his game that needs atention to bring about his desired result. If he didn't think he could work succsssfully with Jason, I don't think he would have taken the job. There are various versions of the WCO that can benefit from Jason's big arm as well.

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[quote=djnemo65;415660]This is seriously an uninformed post[/quote]

Yours is a seriously over-friendly post.


WOW...

I think someone is confusing Campbell with Romo, or Pacman Jones. :Flush:

Re: Jim Zorn will be great!!
 

[QUOTE=Longtimefan;415767]I agree, and to piggy-back just a little on your concept, I'm sure during the course of the interview process, various things were discussed.

Jim Zorn is well aware of Jason Campbell's strengths' as well as his weaknesses, and feel he can work comfortably with him in whatever area of his game that needs atention to bring about his desired result. If he didn't think he could work succsssfully with Jason, I don't think he would have taken the job. There are various versions of the WCO that can benefit from Jason's big arm as well.[/QUOTE]

Exaxtly. Zorn brings a modern touch to Offensive Philosophy both Gibbs and Saunders didn't have. Hasselbeck is a geek but very sucessful in his career with the Seahawks. Zorn was a major part of that sucess and how they brought on Senica so quickly really gives me confidence that Jason will be even more improved in 08'.

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Right now the limiting factor is Campbell. He is so slow with the ball I hope its not a problem with this new offense.

Saunders would have added a modern touch to the offense but Gibbs wouldnt let him because he was stuck in an 80s style O that was too run focused.

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[QUOTE=irish;415796]Right now the limiting factor is Campbell. He is so slow with the ball I hope its not a problem with this new offense.[/QUOTE]

Saunders offense too complex and dated. He didn't make his reads in time or know where to go with the ball. JC clearly needs to work on his check down reads you're right. He's going to be fine.

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[QUOTE=QBall;415798]Saunders offense too complex and dated. He didn't make his reads in time or know where to go with the ball. JC clearly needs to work on his check down reads you're right. He's going to be fine.[/QUOTE]

AS's O is complex but not dated. Its Gibbs who was dated by wanting to run first and pass second. The NFL is now a pass first run second league but Gibbs was too conservative to let AS do his thing and modernize the O. Actually, Giibbs himself said he needed to modernize the O which is why AS came here in the first place. Too bad Gibbs wouldnt let him.

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The funny thing is our highest offensive ranking under Gibbs this time around was when he was calling the shots in 2005 (11th overall). IMO we would have been better off if Gibbs just stuck with running the offense himself.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72;415805]The funny thing is our highest offensive ranking under Gibbs this time around was when he was calling the shots in 2005 (11th overall). IMO we would have been better off if Gibbs just stuck with running the offense himself.[/QUOTE]

Maybe. Remember in 06 Portis was hurt and in 07 the line was injury riddled, IMO that does not provide the formula for a successful run first O. I think in the end even had Gibbs turned AS loose the Skins just didnt have the talent at QB to really make the system work.

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[quote=Sean"Big Hurt"Taylor;415489]Marks my words, Zorn will be great for us if only Campbell understands this offense. I really believe that we needed a fresh face to run our offense. This guy has never called plays before so no one can really gameplan for him yet. I just hope that he brings that MIke Holmgren offensive gamplanning with him. Holmgren is a genius on offense. It also helps that he was a quarterback before in this league.[/quote]

What makes you think he'll be great? He hasn't even called plays for an NFL team yet. No NFL coordinator experience. Let him learn somewhere else. I don't like the the hire at all. But I'm going to assume that if Fassel or Mooch gets the job then they will call the plays, not Zorn.

Re: Jim Zorn will be great!!
 

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;415826]What makes you think he'll be great? He hasn't even called plays for an NFL team yet. No NFL coordinator experience. Let him learn somewhere else. I don't like the the hire at all. But I'm going to assume that if Fassel or Mooch gets the job then they will call the plays, not Zorn.[/QUOTE]

Because he was great with Matt and he developed into a probowl QB. What's more important? Calling great plays or the skill to work with and develope a QB to maximize their talents. He may or may not call the plays but he will work very closely with JC and he's got 9 years experience as offensive QB coach for Seattle.

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[quote=Mattyk72;415805]The funny thing is our highest offensive ranking under Gibbs this time around was when he was calling the shots in 2005 (11th overall). IMO we would have been better off if Gibbs just stuck with running the offense himself.[/quote]

No doubt. That was his M.O., he was a master at putting together an offensive scheme (but I can't overlook how the injury bug just seemed to kill us every year, we are due for that bug to get outta DC). I was very disappointed when he brought in Al to take over what I thought was his strongest asset in football. Of course I'm not taking away from any of Joe's other strengths as he has many.

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The whole reason Dan is bringing Zorn in is to develope JC. I'm still not sold on how good of an OC he will be, but I did think it was time for Al to go. His sytem has worked great for other teams he has coached, but not so well in Washington. I think he tried to hard to adapt Jason to the sytem and not a system that fit his players.
Sure hope the westcoast O works for us, need to find a big and strong reciever to go with S.Moss and El and I hope it is Randy Moss who Danny Boy and his fluncky Vinny C. can get.

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I'm optimistic too. After all, it's the postseason. But doesn't a rookie offensive coordinator favor Fassel or Mariucci as a head coach, rather than Meeks, Schwartz, et al.?