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Slingin Sammy 33 02-01-2008 02:03 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
Tremendous talent does no good if it is in:
A) jail
B) suspended by the NFL
C) in a strip club; either "makin it rain" or punching dancers.

Stay away, far away from Pacman.

Counter-Tre 02-01-2008 02:16 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
What if we kept him locked in a cage and only let him out for practice and games.

freddyg12 02-01-2008 02:42 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
So that I don't get accused of a double standard because I cautioned the idea of signing Chad Johnson, let me say first that everyone deserves a second chance. To me, potential problem players have to be evaluated on:

1) impact on team chemistry, e.g. TO has no legal issues, just a history of alienating teamates
2) impact of off field problems & likelihood of recurrence

Pacman's issues to my knowledge are in (2), but I've never heard of him being a 'bad teamate' when he's w/the team. He knows that he can't screw up again (not that that's stopped him before), so if there is any intelligence & discipline left in his small mind, he'll get it together.

I think it's worth it for the front office to interview him & if they think he's changed enough, offer him an extremely incentive laden contract & offer Tenn. an incentive laden trade deal w/a conditional futue pick. Something like, if he is on the roster at the end of the year, Tenn. gets a 4th or 5th rnd. pick. If not, they get a 7th rnd. pick or cash.

Redskin Warrior 02-01-2008 02:45 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
If some of you think Chad Johnson is a problem Pacman the devil himself

FRPLG 02-01-2008 03:07 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
I'd rather play with John Jansen and Casey Rabach at corner. And I am not even remotely kidding. I'd sooner see Brandon Lloyd line up behind the center and run the freaking wing t option with Heath Shuler as the Tail back.

Dirtbag59 02-01-2008 03:23 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
Any news from PFT can wait.

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 02-01-2008 03:31 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
[QUOTE=freddyg12;416134]So that I don't get accused of a double standard because I cautioned the idea of signing Chad Johnson, let me say first that everyone deserves a second chance. To me, potential problem players have to be evaluated on:

1) impact on team chemistry, e.g. TO has no legal issues, just a history of alienating teamates
2) impact of off field problems & likelihood of recurrence

Pacman's issues to my knowledge are in (2), but I've never heard of him being a 'bad teamate' when he's w/the team. He knows that he can't screw up again (not that that's stopped him before), so if there is any intelligence & discipline left in his small mind, he'll get it together.

I think it's worth it for the front office to interview him & if they think he's changed enough, offer him an extremely incentive laden contract & offer Tenn. an incentive laden trade deal w/a conditional futue pick. Something like, if he is on the roster at the end of the year, Tenn. gets a 4th or 5th rnd. pick. If not, they get a 7th rnd. pick or cash.[/QUOTE]

Didn't Pacman take a swing at a teammate for not "backing him up" when he was suspended?

BrudLee 02-01-2008 03:33 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
[QUOTE=celts32;416072]Please god no...I honestly can't think of a player in the world I want less![/QUOTE]

You haven't seen me run the 40.

sancho2613 02-01-2008 03:45 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
[quote=jamf;416123]I don't think so.
I hate Jones but he is a top 5 cover cornerback and an elite punt returner.
Guys with that kind of talent will always get breaks.

I personally hope he is done with football, but He isn't because he can play at a high level.[/quote]

That talent didn't help the Titans this last year and I don't think he'll behave any better if he plays with the Redskins. He's just a waste of talent....

Longtimefan 02-01-2008 03:47 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
Everybody does deserve a second chance, but I'd much rather see Pacman get his opportunity [If he get's one] somewhere else. I would not like to see him in Burgandy & Gold.

heybigstar 02-01-2008 03:50 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
[quote=Mattyk72;416073]DUMB question to even ask.[/quote]

I disagree,

his talent level (potential top CB in the whole league) makes it a question worth being brought up.

Dirtbag59 02-01-2008 03:55 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
[quote=heybigstar;416157]I disagree,

his talent level (potential top CB in the whole league) makes it a question worth being brought up.[/quote]

Read the Jeremy Stevens article and I think you'll see why I agree with Matty. Besides pretty soon Pacmans trade value will be on par with Michael Vicks. At this point its only a matter of time.

birdz4gibbs 02-01-2008 04:00 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
no thanks..the video game pacman has been more impressive than pacman himself.
we don,t need a problem child here..

GTripp0012 02-01-2008 04:00 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
[quote=Dirtbag359;416159]Read the Jeremy Stevens article and I think you'll see why I agree with Matty. Besides pretty soon Pacmans trade value will be on par with Michael Vicks. At this point its only a matter of time.[/quote]But there's a big difference in the football skill of Pac Man Jones, and Jerramy Stevens. Even if Stevens was a choir boy, you can't really defend that he still deserves to be playing in the NFL. The fact that he's a terrible person just makes it downright insane that he has any support inside this league.

Pac Man may be a terrible person, but he's good at football. Jerramy Stevens is not.

Of course, a good counter argument would be that missing a year of football is a guarantee to severely retard ones development as a football player.

MTK 02-01-2008 04:01 PM

Re: Someone has to bring it up....
 
[quote=heybigstar;416157]I disagree,

his talent level (potential top CB in the whole league) makes it a question worth being brought up.[/quote]

His talent level is completely wiped out by his retarded actions off the field IMO.

I really hope the NFL doesn't reinstate him. He's a complete loser.


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