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Please compare the 2 and tell me why sports athletes should be paid a single cent more that those that sacrifice their lives for us.[/quote]

Guess what nearly all these professions you're listing have in common -- they're paid by the state. People already complain enough about taxes. And guess what, the best of the best in the armed services DO get rewarded very well financially. Along with teachers, everyone at the NFL level is the best of the best.

But just like everything else, the best money is in the private sector.

Even if you want to get into sports contracts, look at baseball and basketball before football.

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Want players to make less? Stop supporting the NFL. Otherwise they are going to get a share of the profits commensurate with what their respective unions can negotiate.

I think some of you need to go back to Russia:)

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Maybe they do, maybe they don't. I know I couldn't go out there for 3 years and protect a QB, catch a bunch of deep balls, work my butt of 365 days for 16 weeks of gain. These guys do a lot in the offseason also. Also, take a look at the risks of physical harm.
On the flip side, most of them have college degree's that could earn them so good money, but not what thier making now.

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Sure they get paid a ton but they also put a lot at risk. I'm not sure of the exact numbers but the overall life expectancy of a NFL player is much shorter than your average person. They are also more prone to suicide, divorce, obesity, heart problems, depression, etc. Something about crashing into other people at full speed over an extended period of time doesn't do the body good. Go figure.

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For years, owners abused players rights before the advent of free agency. With the NFL being the gold standard, franchises are hugely successful businesses today, and the players bring the compelling entertainment value. I have no problem with any man making what the open market will bear.

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As a teacher, I definitely have a strong opinion on the matter. Unfotunately, have to go teach in a few minutes and do not have enough time to write a really long rant.

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[quote=Daseal;419146]Guess what nearly all these professions you're listing have in common -- they're paid by the state. People already complain enough about taxes. And guess what, the best of the best in the armed services DO get rewarded very well financially. Along with teachers, everyone at the NFL level is the best of the best.

[B] But just like everything else, the best money is in the private sector.[/B]

Even if you want to get into sports contracts, look at baseball and basketball before football.[/quote]

Private school teachers make less then public school teachers. Not saying it disproves your argument, just stating the truth.

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[quote=skinsnut;419120]ya know what....in the 70s when these guys got paid what we did (and got off season jobs) ...they played with their heart for the team.

Interesting that the touchdown dances, trouble with hookers in clubs, and various greed related activities weren't occuring then.

Who do you want your kids to look up to?

I still say ART MONK and Darrel Green....who were still "old school" in the 80s

Early money is corrupting many of our young athletes.
(Not to mention those smarmy agents)[/quote]
What are you talking about. Griggo admitted to getting drunk while playing football. I heard of a QB that the Dline joked always smelled like booze. If you think those guys did not hang out in strip clubs your crazy. Its just now sports are a bigger deal and you have so much media they need to find things to report about so now they follow players personal life off the field. S for if they are paid too much I guess you could say some are some are not. What gets me is these guys who come out of college and have never played one down in the NFL get paid these millions without ever proven they can play in the NFL. Allot of them fail and make enough money to never work another day in their life. People like Moss have proven their worth and get paid because of it.

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No. Next questions.

Instead of rehashing, take some of SmootSmack's answer, a little of Daseal's, and a dash of djnemo's, and you have how I feel. Not saying it's fair, but it is what it is...

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[quote=Skinny Tee;419091]Let's say a common worker makes on average $50,000 a year. Multiple that by 45 years and you have a cool 2.25 million. That equates to what an average NFL player can expect to walk away with after his average 3 year stint.

That's why it is always important to maximize your payouts whenever possible. It's not selfish, it's business.[/quote]

They can keep their $2 million in investments for 45 years.

We can't do that. Ours is needed at the time it is made and the later income won't be able to sit and grow.


Just pointing out another difference.

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[quote=djnemo65;419149]Want players to make less? Stop supporting the NFL. Otherwise they are going to get a share of the profits commensurate with what their respective unions can negotiate.

I think some of you need to go back to Russia:)[/quote]

Nice! I always throw out the socialist implications of this argument as well. The only way it makes sense in a capitalist economy to question what someone "should" make, is if you mean it relative to another position in their organization.

e.g. it would make sense to pose the argument, players make too much & some of their pay should go to other positions in the front office such as scouting.

Otherwise, I find the statements about how teachers should get paid more to be very tired, and for that matter, intellectually challenged. Also, Why single out athletes? Julia Roberts gets paid a lot more than most any of these guys w/out virtually any of the risk.

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Entertainers period get paid too much. but thats what people want to see. its all demand.....

nobody wants to go see you sit at your desk and work, and thats why you dont get paid 1.1 mill

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[quote=freddyg12;419219]Nice! I always throw out the socialist implications of this argument as well. The only way it makes sense in a capitalist economy to question what someone "should" make, is if you mean it relative to another position in their organization.

e.g. it would make sense to pose the argument, players make too much & some of their pay should go to other positions in the front office such as scouting.

[B] Otherwise, I find the statements about how teachers should get paid more to be very tired, and for that matter, intellectually challenged. Also, Why single out athletes? Julia Roberts gets paid a lot more than most any of these guys w/out virtually any of the risk.[/B][/quote]

I agree that it does not apply only to athletes, but how can you say: "I find the statements about how teachers should get paid more to be very tired, and for that matter, intellectually challenged."


That is just BS, you have made no real argument, just criticized people for their view. Maybe these intellectually challenged individuals are so because their teachers weren't good enough because it is such a low paying position. Look their is a big difference between socialism and trying to balance wages to make sure that those who deserve money more get it. Should a custodian get paid the same as a Doctor? No F'ing way, but there are circumstances when a capitalist system falls short. We, by the way, do not have a completely free market, we have subsidies, taxes, and the like. So why not give compensation where its due? And the reason teachers always come up is because our educational system SUCKS and our teachers are grossly underpaid, and I'd argue that the two are related.

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[quote=Buster;419218]They can keep their $2 million in investments for 45 years.

We can't do that. Ours is needed at the time it is made and the later income won't be able to sit and grow.


Just pointing out another difference.[/quote]

Already addressed this difference, professional players are risking their lifetime of health and welfare in those three years. They're living life at an accelerated pace, physically and financially.

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[quote=djnemo65;419149]Want players to make less? Stop supporting the NFL. Otherwise they are going to get a share of the profits commensurate with what their respective unions can negotiate.

I think some of you need to go back to Russia:)[/quote]


I know you were trying to be funny, but have you even been to Russia? They are WAY more capitalist than we are. More Billionaires come from Russia than anywhere else in the world...talk about free markets.

Agree with your point on supporting the league though...they only get paid because we're willing spend/watch TV, so there is your option.